Official 2010 Kinston Indians Thread

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:01 pm

MadThinker88 wrote:
dazindiansfanuk wrote:Two more doubles for Chen tonight - 15 with Kinston and 36 for the year to go along with his 3 triples and 12HR.

Chen has definitely been one of the biggest surprises/ break-throughs in the Tribe farm system this year.

Perhaps most impressive is he now has 33B to 33K in his 46 High-A games compared to a 17:38 ratio in Lake County.

Is there any chance they bump him straight to AA next year? Or am I just being a bit aggressive with that thinking.

by **Jake Taylor** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:11 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:
MadThinker88 wrote:
dazindiansfanuk wrote:Two more doubles for Chen tonight - 15 with Kinston and 36 for the year to go along with his 3 triples and 12HR.

Chen has definitely been one of the biggest surprises/ break-throughs in the Tribe farm system this year.

Perhaps most impressive is he now has 33B to 33K in his 46 High-A games compared to a 17:38 ratio in Lake County.

Is there any chance they bump him straight to AA next year? Or am I just being a bit aggressive with that thinking.

I would think he'd go straight to Akron. He has little to nothing left to prove in Kinston (pretty decent sample size), and I would think if they sent him to the Fall League they think pretty highly of him.

by **TonyIBI** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:12 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:
MadThinker88 wrote:
dazindiansfanuk wrote:Two more doubles for Chen tonight - 15 with Kinston and 36 for the year to go along with his 3 triples and 12HR.

Chen has definitely been one of the biggest surprises/ break-throughs in the Tribe farm system this year.

Perhaps most impressive is he now has 33B to 33K in his 46 High-A games compared to a 17:38 ratio in Lake County.

Is there any chance they bump him straight to AA next year? Or am I just being a bit aggressive with that thinking.

Yeah, I think you will see Chen in Akron, Perez in Kinston, and Lavisky in Lake County.

by **artgold** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:11 pm

Greenwell with 3 hits tonight, giving him back to back multi hit games.

Seems to have a lot of batting skills but clearly seemed to run out of gas. Looking at his batting profile game to game, his power just isn't there along with what looks like a stamina issue. The brief time he dialed up his power earlier this year his contact rate really went down. Recalling how he looked physically when I saw him last season, I'd think he might just need to really go and get it this offseason in terms of building himself up a bit, and then seeing if he can combine the excellent hitting ability with a moderate bit of power.

Looks like he could be interesting from a player development perspective, though his lack of power and tailing off the past month keeps me from seeing him as more than of secondary interest at this time.

by **ktriber** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:22 pm

Who would have thought it earlier in the year? Ktribe headed to the playoffs barring a meltdown. With the pitching still in Kinston, they have a shot at winning it.

by **indianinkslinger** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:02 pm

artgold wrote:Greenwell with 3 hits tonight, giving him back to back multi hit games.

Seems to have a lot of batting skills but clearly seemed to run out of gas. Looking at his batting profile game to game, his power just isn't there along with what looks like a stamina issue. The brief time he dialed up his power earlier this year his contact rate really went down. Recalling how he looked physically when I saw him last season, I'd think he might just need to really go and get it this offseason in terms of building himself up a bit, and then seeing if he can combine the excellent hitting ability with a moderate bit of power.

Looks like he could be interesting from a player development perspective, though his lack of power and tailing off the past month keeps me from seeing him as more than of secondary interest at this time.

Things may change since Greenwell is a superior athlete but he has only hit two HRs a season until this year when he has "broken out" with five. He is really in tough in CF with the new draftees along with the existing players in the organization. Far less competition in the corners but it is difficult for me to envision even 15-20 HR in the majors. :pleasantry:

by **TonyIBI** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:04 pm

ktriber wrote:Who would have thought it earlier in the year? Ktribe headed to the playoffs barring a meltdown. With the pitching still in Kinston, they have a shot at winning it.

Yeah, who'd a thunk it. Only having to beat out 3 teams for the second half berth of course helps, but who cares....you just gotta get in. I think they will be a tough out in the postseason with that staff, assuming Gardner or others are not limited with IP.

by **indianinkslinger** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:43 pm

TonyIPI wrote:
ktriber wrote:Who would have thought it earlier in the year? Ktribe headed to the playoffs barring a meltdown. With the pitching still in Kinston, they have a shot at winning it.

Yeah, who'd a thunk it. Only having to beat out 3 teams for the second half berth of course helps, but who cares....you just gotta get in. I think they will be a tough out in the postseason with that staff, assuming Gardner or others are not limited with IP.

Speaking of pitching, McFarland had an excellint outing again showing nice bounceback from late July-early August inconsisteny. No runs, 2 hits and 3 BBs over 6IP.

by **TonyIBI** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:50 pm

Magic number down to three.

Interesting that Akron and Mahoning Valley made the playoffs last year and Columbus, Kinston, and Lake County missed.

Now this year Columbus, Kinston and Lake County are all but in, and Akron and Mahoning Valley will miss.

by **artgold** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:59 pm

Greenwell with 3rd multi hit game in a row.

by **tpaquette78** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:20 pm

artgold wrote:Greenwell with 3rd multi hit game in a row.

Thats good because he had been struggling a bit lately.

by **TonyIBI** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:34 pm

Grening back to Kinston.

Also congrats to Gardner and Burns for sweeping the year end Carolina League awards for Pitcher and Reliver of the year.

by **ktriber** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:27 pm

TonyIPI wrote:Grening back to Kinston.

Also congrats to Gardner and Burns for sweeping the year end Carolina League awards for Pitcher and Reliver of the year.

Congrats to these guys, these both are very deserving. Another guy that is flying under the radar in Kinston this year is Langwell. He hasn't given up a run in a long time. If the Ktribe has taken a lead into the 8th and Langwell and Burns are rested, it's been pretty much over for the last couple of months.

by **indianinkslinger** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:45 pm

ktriber wrote:
TonyIPI wrote:Grening back to Kinston.

Also congrats to Gardner and Burns for sweeping the year end Carolina League awards for Pitcher and Reliver of the year.

Congrats to these guys, these both are very deserving. Another guy that is flying under the radar in Kinston this year is Langwell. He hasn't given up a run in a long time. If the Ktribe has taken a lead into the 8th and Langwell and Burns are rested, it's been pretty much over for the last couple of months.

I am surprised but not shocked that all three of these guys did not get a call to Akron this year. I understand Gardner who really needs work on his command and 3rd pitch after a year off. Burns may have a more difficult time in AA than he has at Kinston but keeping Langwell down in A+ at his age and pedigree has made no sense to me. We can hardly accuse the Tribe of not promoting pitchers from Kinston but I can think of at least two RH relievers he could easily replace IMO. Such are the vagaries of a deep system I suppose.

by **TonyIBI** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:28 pm

indianinkslinger wrote:Such are the vagaries of a deep system I suppose.

You just answered your own question. :drinks:

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:12 pm

Greenwell 4-for-4 with a 3B and a HR in the second game of a DH tonight..... a double short of the cycle and now 13-for-27 over his last 6 games.

Good to see him finishing on a hot streak.

by **martyinnewyork** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:21 pm

Marty Popham perfect through 5...

by **martyinnewyork** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:24 pm

Still perfect after 6 with 8 K's... tied at 0...

by **artgold** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:53 pm

martyinnewyork wrote:Still perfect after 6 with 8 K's... tied at 0...

Two walks in 7th, but still has the no hitter going.

by **martyinnewyork** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:26 pm

Popham out after 7, now heading to the 10th, still a no-hitter...

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:27 pm

Popham and Jones combine on the no hitter through 9, but the game's scoreless!

The K-Tribe have just taken a 1-0 lead in the 10th and Burns is on looking to complete a 10 inning no-no.

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:36 pm

A perfect inning for Burns.

A COMBINED 10 INNING NO HITTER!!!

by **martyinnewyork** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:36 pm

Burns wraps up the combined no-hitter!

by **TonyIBI** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:03 pm

martyinnewyork wrote:Burns wraps up the combined no-hitter!

Bravo!

And our very own Al C. was on hand to witness it!

by **Upper Box Woodchuck** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:16 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:A perfect inning for Burns.

A COMBINED 10 INNING NO HITTER!!!

Congrats to Popham, Jones, and Burns!
:s_thumbsup

by **Upper Box Woodchuck** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:46 pm

I was checking on the K-Tribe playoff ticket info and noticed that there was no mention of box/field or GA ticket pricing. I'm assuming the Box and Field Seats are all sold to STHs, but what about the GA tix? Are they keeping the bleachers closed off unless the reserved seats sell out so there's less of the ballpark to have to operate for what will likely be poorly attended games (I have no idea what it is with the minors and playoffs :dunno:

). That seems like the most reasonable explanation to me.

by **gotribe31** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:04 am

TonyIPI wrote:
martyinnewyork wrote:Burns wraps up the combined no-hitter!

Bravo!

And our very own Al C. was on hand to witness it!

Was a great game to see live. The umpire was a little generous with his strike zone, but that doesn't diminish the feat those guys accomplished. Pop was dealing, Jonesy came in and didn't skip a beat, and then Mr. Automatic shut them down in the 10th. I always said I wanted to see a no-hitter at some point, and now I can cross that one off the list.

by **martyinnewyork** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:53 pm

Down 3-1 but Gardner escapes a bases loaded, no out situation in the 5th...

by **martyinnewyork** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:33 pm

Down 4-1 in bottom of 7th... Tice K'd with 2 down and sacks juiced to end the 6th... Gardner out...

by **martyinnewyork** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:48 pm

Down 3 with 6 outs left...

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:10 pm

3 straight two-out hits by Greenwell, Tice and Chen with two outs in the 8th caps off a 4-run rally to put the K-Tribe 5-4 up headed to the 9th.

by **martyinnewyork** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:13 pm

K-Tribe gets up off the mat to take the lead - Cory Burns in for the save!

by **martyinnewyork** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:16 pm

Burns gives up a run, headed to bottom of 9th...

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:17 pm

martyinnewyork wrote:Burns gives up a run, headed for extra's...

They gotta play the bot 9th first :good:

by **martyinnewyork** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:32 pm

Can't sneak a mistake past you, Daz...

by **martyinnewyork** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:46 pm

Bases loaded, 2 down... Bellows K's... on we go...

by **martyinnewyork** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:01 pm

Headed to the 12th... gotta hit the showers, my night is done...

by **TonyIBI** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:58 pm

TOugh ending to the season for the K-Tribe. Burns and Gardner, arguably the best two pitchers in the Carolina League (starter/reliever) both prove they are mortal in their last game of the year by having what was probably their worst night of the season. A nice year though, and some encouraging progress by several, disappointing steps back with some. Will be interesting to see next year who of these guys gets to Double-A, who repeats in Kinston, and who is released in the spring.

by **elrod enchilada** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:43 am

What are the chances that Kyle Bellows could pull a "Phelps leap" next season? Phelps had a similar year in Kinston in 2009 and then exploded in AA and AAA this year. Bellows was similarly a high pick out of college, a year after Phelps. Bellows from what IPI reports is considered a phenomenal defensive third baseman and has offensive potential. Decent power prosepct. Seems like someone to keep an eye on. Lots of athletic ability.

After watching the Tribe this season, I have a new found appreciation for the importance of good defense at third base.

by **artgold** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:39 pm

elrod enchilada wrote:What are the chances that Kyle Bellows could pull a "Phelps leap" next season? Phelps had a similar year in Kinston in 2009 and then exploded in AA and AAA this year. Bellows was similarly a high pick out of college, a year after Phelps. Bellows from what IPI reports is considered a phenomenal defensive third baseman and has offensive potential. Decent power prosepct. Seems like someone to keep an eye on. Lots of athletic ability.

Though that would be nice I kind of doubt he makes the Phelps leap next year.

If you look at their historical performances, you see some substantial differences their first two seasons. First off, Phelps had an excellent partial season at MV the year he was drafted (.312/.376/.454), while Bellows was very mediocre his initial partial season at MV (.240/.311/.405).

Though you are right about their seasons at Kinston from a general perspective, their is a huge difference in their BB/K rates at Kinston, with Phelps going 93/97 while Bellows was only 39/91.

If Bellows had shown significant batting progress throughout the season, I could somewhat minimize their differences at Kinston. However, he hit no better as the season evolved. In fact, his first half hitting performance was slightly better than his second half performance.

by **elrod enchilada** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:58 pm

very good points, and I generally agree.

The flip side is that Bellows is a tad younger, a bit bigger and more athletic, has more natural power, and, if reports are to be believed, he has a glove to die for. It is this last point that makes him especially interesting to me.

I think we will know soon, like May or June of 2011, whether Bellows is a real prospect or another AAAA guy at best. He needs to make his leap at the plate.

by **TonyIBI** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:59 pm

Indians have extended the player development contract with Kinston another two years through 2012.

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