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Why I like the Justin Masterson trade

Why I like the Justin Masterson trade
Justin Masterson (Photo: AP)
July 30, 2014
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The Indians made their first deadline move and it was a big one.  They sent right-handed starting pitcher Justin Masterson to the Cardinals for minor league outfielder James Ramsey in a one for one deal.

The Cardinals had been chasing big name pitchers, but in the end decided it was better to not pay the premium and rolled the dice on Masterson. Initial reaction was very mixed for both Indians and Cardinals fans. It is easy to see why. It’s hard to say who won a deal like this. In the end I am happy with the Indians return and here is why.

There are several reasons why Masteron’s value cratered this season. The first and obvious being he has been ineffective and hurt for a good chunk of the year. This means a team is trading for him on his history not for what he has done this year. The issue is the history of Masterson is not great either. He is the king of inconsistency and has failed in his career to ever put two good years in a row together. His struggles with left-handed hitters is known league wide as well. Every start he makes the lineup he faces is loaded with as many lefties as possible.

On another note, since Masterson was traded he can’t be offered a qualifying offer this offseason. This means the Cardinals gave up a prospect for a two month gamble on a pitcher who has shown nothing this year. He will be free to sign with any team in the offseason without any limitations set forth had the Indians kept him and extended a qualifying offer to him.

James Ramsey is a guy I remember quite well from the 2012 draft. He went 23rd overall, eight picks after Tyler Naquin. He had been called the Tim Tebow of the MLB draft. He was a star college player at a Florida college, FSU, who was a good athlete, was very religious, and put up massive numbers. He was the first senior taken that year, and signed for six figures which is often rare for a senior.

Ramsey was the 7th rated prospect in the Cardinals system by Baseball America to start the year, and in the recent MLB midseason update they put him at 6th in the Cardinals organization. In terms of his tools, he brings a bit of everything to the game. He has shown average to above average tools across the board. He has played mostly center and right in the minors. He could play either in the big leagues thanks to his wheels and a solid arm. This has been his strongest season and his power seems to be emerging. He is on pace for more than 20 home runs this year.

Ramsey is always very well known for his intangibles. He was a Rhodes Scholar and has been a team leader at every level in the minors. Reports on his worth ethic and approach are off the charts. If he fails it won’t be for lack of effort. That said, I am a bit concerned by his strikeout totals which are high; yet they are balanced by solid walk totals so he could be a player who walks and strikes out a lot. This type of player can work in the majors, as opposed to the high strikeout low walk types which mostly fail as prospects.

I know there is concern that he is 24 in Double-A, but it speaks more to the depth of outfielders in the Cardinals system. They had the best outfield in all of the minors at Triple-A. Ramsey was blocked and it is why he was a trade candidate. When the Indians announced the trade they stated he would be sent to Triple-A Columbus. Ramsey could be a candidate as early as next year for the Indians.

In summation the Indians got a top 10 prospect from one of the most respected minor league systems in the majors. Ramsey can play all three outfield spots and shows a good arm and solid wheels. His power is emerging now that he is healthy and while not plus it is average to above average. His only negative trait as a player is a concerning strikeout rate.

If you compare him to fellow 2012 draft pick Naquin, I think it’s clear he is the superior prospect. He will hit more home runs this year than Naquin has hit in the last three seasons. Then add in the better eye at the plate and athleticism and I think it’s clear. I don’t mean to slam Naquin who is clearly a top 10 prospect as well, but Ramsey just has a stronger mix of tools.

I think why Ramsey was a targeted piece by the Indians was they knew he was blocked and hence more easily acquirable. Even more important is the fact Ramsey is a near major’s player who should be ready to help next year. The Indians traded Masty for someone who can help soon, which is a nice return for a pitcher who had been incredibly ineffective this season and might be pitching hurt. Plus they saved roughly $3.5 million which could and should be used to help the team.

One last thing to note is Ramsey is smaller at six feet tall. I know this might seem strange to note, but that’s the way it is in baseball as most players are over six feet. The Indians in free agency and the draft have shown they think this is a market inefficiency. They seem to target players who are viewed as smaller and fall or are dinged because of their height.

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User Comments

Aaron
July 31, 2014 - 1:23 PM EDT
Not quite sure where you're getting info that the Texas League is a pitchers paradise... This here is the park factors as of last year. http://minorleaguecentral.com/parkfactors

6/8 are above 100 for Runs, which signifies above average run production. Half are over 100 for hits and Ramsey's home park is at 104. 5/8 are above 100 for doubles. Springfield is 2nd highest. Home runs is at +113. Now, I'm not sure how much the league has changed over the years, but I'd say this is still primarily a hitting league. His home/road splits are actually solid (better than I expected) and there are some pitchers parks in the league no doubt. What I see though is more gap power on the road than HR power. 10 doubles on the road to 5 dingers, but at home he's got 8 homers and 5 doubles. Small sample size alert, but I don't think Ramsey is going to hit 20 ever. I think he's a solid 13-15 homer guy at the big league level. I think he's a David Murphy type player during his Texas days.
Devin
July 31, 2014 - 9:23 AM EDT
The more I hear about this trade, the more I like it.

Didn't realize the Texas league was a pitchers league now. Always thought it was a hitters league. That makes his stats look much better.

With Masterson off the books and Cabrera and Axford likely gone next year (if not sooner), I wonder how much we will have to spend this offseason. I know some of that will be eaten by arbitration and pre existing contract raises.
Joe Chengery
July 31, 2014 - 7:50 AM EDT
Nikolaos,

I would have to think that would only occur if they get someone with team control through at least next year, if not longer. I would prefer gaining prospects with high ceilings and/or near ready-prospects to add to our depth, not diminish it unless they get a difference-maker for at least 2015, preferably longer.
Nikolaos
July 31, 2014 - 6:42 AM EDT
I love the trade...but I have to wonder if the addition of Ramsey indicates that the Indians are in the process of trading a prospect outfielder (Naquin, Holt) in another deadline deal today?
C L Who
July 31, 2014 - 2:27 AM EDT
There are some very excellent comments here on this deal.

Sorry, but I'm not buying that the FO didn't want to trade the Ace. The Ace was a reliever in September 2013 and had a WHIP almost 1.5 in August 2013. Additionally, the "All Star 2013" Masterson would have been worth alot in February 2014.....perhaps worth even an almost MLB ready AAA pitcher plus one or two other prospects.

The FO has all the necessary stat metrics. If you pinned them down, they would likely say that they didn't want to alienate the fan base by trading the "Ace". Sorry, but the FO job is to do what is necessary to assure the future success of the team.....not to worry about "alienating the fan base" over the trade of an unsignable, inconsistent, going to walk anyway pitcher.

Heck, the fan base is already alienated, so why would a trade in February change anything?
shy
July 31, 2014 - 1:47 AM EDT
Most of the Indians look up and cross themselves when they get a nice hit. Acknowledgement and gratitude to God are more endemic in baseball than any other sport, unless you count church bingo as a sport. Ironically the player ostensibly with the most Christian background on the team- a man who grew up on a mission where his father was the priest, was traded for someone who is reported to be baseball's version of Tim Tebow.. Even more ironic are the rumors that Masterson's fall from grace on the field may be the result of his fall from ecumenical grace. There was a real cute movie out a couple years ago with Cheech Marin of all people playing an angel, about a country music star who suddenly lost her voice when she wavered from her faith. She opened her mouth to sing but nothing came out. Masterson raises his arm now to pitch and the used to be 95 with unhittable filthy movement falls weakly in the dirt. No no's and shutouts throughout the organization tonight. Could be a "sign" But of what exactly we'll have to wait to find out. Fun stuff.
Joe Chengery
July 31, 2014 - 12:56 AM EDT
The California League was, and still is, to my knowledge, a nefarious hitting league as well. The Florida State League was known as a nefarious pitchers' league (why many wondered about Grady Sizemore when he was acquired for Colon years ago, as his stats didn't look that great in the FSL, but based on age, league, and projections, was highly thought of). The Carolina League was another pitcher's league (and still is), with the Eastern League becoming more of a pitchers' league in recent years.

It's interesting to see how all of the minor league divisions shake out, whether they are more of a pitchers' league, hitters' league, or neutral, including how they change over time.
Joe Chengery
July 31, 2014 - 12:50 AM EDT
Tondo,

Very interesting and surprising stats about the Texas League; at one time, the TL, along with the Pacific Coast League, were known as nefarious hitting leagues. I was very surprised to read that OPS league stat you provided- thanks!
yourtribe
July 31, 2014 - 12:24 AM EDT
Don't think we could have gotten much better for masty. Now get something good for cabby. And we saved about 3 mill!!

Why the heck is gomes 8th?? Dumb. Why not put Brantley 6th? Don't care if the pitcher throws with his right foot!!! Move him up!!!!!
Rocky55
July 30, 2014 - 11:43 PM EDT
Saw a lot of Ramsey playing for the Criminoles. Didn't like him much. To me he looked like one of those guys who relied on "athleticism" who was a bit short on athleticism. Don't see him in CF. He's not Holt in the OF and I don't even think he's close to Brantley as a CF. He has a little bit of pop. He has good bat-to-ball. He hustles. I'm not a Naquin fan (really) but I think I'd take Naquin over Ramsey.

All of that said, including the possibility that I might have misjudged and that Ramsey is better than I thought, this is not a bad return for 2 months of a maybe healthy Masterson, plus saving the balance of his salary for the season. Heck, if he's so well regarded by the baseball community, at least he's a trade asset.
Tony
July 30, 2014 - 11:06 PM EDT
I think we need to keep things in perspective. First, the Indians were not going to trade Masterson before the season started. He was the ace of the staff, they were a contender, they wanted to win and they planned to take him through the year and give him the qualifying offer and try to retain him. Now, obviously, four months later all that changed because of his poor performance and drop in command/velocity where his valued plummeted to where they decided to pull the plug on him now and get something for him. I would have preferred an arm.....but the options were limited and beggars can't be choosers. I mean, he is on the DL, is a huge unknown for the Cardinals and he's been brutal this season....so you were not going to get much.

Secondly, we won't know what the Indians truly got with this Ramsey kid until we see him in the system for a little bit....but there is some upside and you have to love the reports coming in from various national media. The last time this happened with such an outfielder was in the Sabathia trade when there were glowing reports about Michael Brantley who was viewed at the time by many fans as a future fourth outfielder. Now, obviously brantley was like 20 or 21 when he was picked up and there was more upside....but the point is that let's wait and see what this Ramsey kid does before we pass judgement. It's a solid trade. Indians really have nothing to lose here as they were not winning with Masterson anyway, and he had little value, so maybe Ramsey works out or he doesn't. Time will tell. Bottom line, they got a usable piece that is near Major League ready and has some legit potential and adds to some outfield depth that they can now maybe parlay into an arm.
Jerry
July 30, 2014 - 10:42 PM EDT
I would interested in a straight-up trade of Cabrera for Milone, but I think the Oakland would want somebody like House thrown in which would kill the the deal.
Seth
July 30, 2014 - 10:25 PM EDT
It's usually these type of trades that turn out well for Cleveland, guys like Gomes, Choo, Asdrubal, Hafner, Kluber, they were never considered great prospects.
Walter
July 30, 2014 - 10:16 PM EDT
I'm not sure what kind of prospect that Ramsey ends up being, but based on how the Cardinal fans reacted to this trade, we must have gotten Taveras in disguised. Maybe Ramsey ends up being like a Chisenhall type of player.

By the way Herrera who we traded for Scrabble last year is now there 11th best propsect.
Homer
July 30, 2014 - 9:31 PM EDT
The Tribe should expect a better (or similar) return for ACab than the Padres got for Chase Headley, IMHO. Possibly, better than what they got for Masterson.

The Giants have four SP prospects (outside Crick and Beede) I'd suspect the Tribe would have interest in...
Adalberto Mejia -LHSP, Ty Blach -LHSP, Clayton Blackburn -RHSP, and Chris Stratton -RHSP.

The Jays have a few SP prospects (outside of Norris, Stroman, Sanchez and Hoffman) I'd suspect the a Tribe would have interest in... Robert Osuna - RHSP, Sean Nolin - LHSP, Chase DeJong -RHSP and Matt Smoral - RHSP.
Canadian Joe
July 30, 2014 - 8:57 PM EDT
Kluber having another strong outing tonight, besting Felix thru 7. Who would have thought 2-3 years ago he could be the ace of this staff. Good for him and good for us !!!!
Tondo
July 30, 2014 - 8:20 PM EDT
From the Giants, LHSP Ty Blach or RHSP C.Blackburn would be a great return for ACab. Blach, a 2012 5th rounder, currently at AA. He would also drive the fanbase crazy, as he's another pitchability lefty
Tondo
July 30, 2014 - 7:58 PM EDT
Just looking at the Blue Jays and Giants prospects, as they are rumored to be the front runners on ACab and there's not much of a fit I see right now. No tradeable comp picks. The only possible SP that could be in play in some way is Sean Nolin, but I doubt the Jays would give him away for 2 months of ACab, but who knows, it's been a sellers market so far. If Masterson can get a top 10 guy from the Cards, maybe ACab can too. He's the best MIF on the trade market right now. Maybe with a reliever thrown in too? or is Nolin a pipe dream?
Seth
July 30, 2014 - 7:51 PM EDT
Will be interesting to see if they give Carrasco a final shot at the starting rotation here in the last couple months. With McAllister, House and Tomlin the Indians have also cornered the 5th-starter market. Might as well try seeing one more time whether Carrasco can translate into something better than a 5th starter
Seth
July 30, 2014 - 7:47 PM EDT
The Indians are really cornering the market on 4th-outfielder prospects, with Moncrief, Naquin and now Ramsey. This is more of a salary dump though, there was no reason not to move him if they could find a taker, and he can probably at least be useful out of the bullpen for the Cardinals.
Homer
July 30, 2014 - 7:34 PM EDT
On Twitter: Jon Morosi says, Jays and Giants interested in ACab. Jon Heyman says, Jays are in the lead in his recent article.

Morosi also suggests the Tribe might be willing to move Scrabble. Might not be a bad idea, Hagadone seems to have done well in his limited role. Crockett is a keeper and the Tribe has some depth with Barnes, Maronde, Arajuo, and Soto.

The Tribe isn't if full sell mode, but if they get an offer they can't refuse, I think they should deal him.
markn95
July 30, 2014 - 7:32 PM EDT
The Tribe already had a glut of middle infield prospects plugging away at Akron and Columbus prior to this trade. Now, adding Ramsey to Naquin, Holt, Myles, and Moncrief gives them a glut of outfield prospects at those levels as well. Plus, interesting guys like Urshella and Agulair on the IF corners. All of this makes me think they may deal some of this excess for starting pitching prospects, of which there is an opposite of a glut. Sure, plenty of 4's and 5's in McAllister, House, Tomlin, and Coon, but no front of the rotation hopefuls beyond Bauer and Salazar. This should be an interesting July, August, an offseason for the Tribes front office.
Homer
July 30, 2014 - 7:23 PM EDT
Rosenthal on Twitter hints the Tribe might not be done. Building excess OF prospects coupled with their MIF depth.

I'm just guessing they are looking to add some SP with that depth. They were rumored to want SP in return, may not have been able to get a qlty arm so took the best position player they could get. They could pkg some prospects for a controllable SP in return.
C L Who
July 30, 2014 - 7:11 PM EDT
Good discussion Tondo. You could have mentioned as well that his XBH % this year has been 38.4% of all hits, and he is averaging .528 bases/ AB. For comparison, Miguel Cabrera's XBH this year is 44%, and he averages .530 bases / AB.
Canadian Joe
July 30, 2014 - 7:06 PM EDT
Don't mind this deal at all. Understand why Masterson was kept to start the year, but the FO took a bad situation and got a return, probably better than expected. If only Antonetti had a crystal ball in February, but then again, who knew. Decent return.
Now if we can air mail Cabrera, Bourne, Swisher, and a few others out, it could get interesting. A lot of $$ saved in this deal too. Playing with monopoly $$ is fun isn't it ?
Chiefroy
July 30, 2014 - 6:55 PM EDT
I love this trade. I feared Masterson had played himself out of any trade value whatsoever. We get a solid OBP hitter with decent power, good average who can play all OF positions ably. Great work ethic. Sounds kinda like Michael Brantley a while back. A likely upgrade over Naquin and Moncrief, I could see a Ramsey/Holt platoon in CF in 2016...or even next season if we can unload Bourn somehow.

Ramsey's OPS in Texas League is .916 in 243 ABs with 31 walks and 66 Ks....not enough plate appearances to qualify for OPS lead....league leader has an OPS of .818 in 288 ABs with 41 walks. Give this guy the AAA challenge without several top prospects blocking his path to the majors and he may take off. If he can just stay healthy, we may have gotten a steal of a deal.
Tondo
July 30, 2014 - 6:51 PM EDT
Ramsey was just drafted 2 years ago, so him "only" being a 24 year old former 1st round pick playing at AA level isn't exactly a knock. How many Indians draft picks from 2012 are in AA or AAA right now? Exactly, Naquin.

Some facts from the Texas League:
It is a very pitcher friendly league. There are only 5 qualifying batters with an OPS over .800 and the best is at .818. Team AVG OPS is below .700
Ramsey is about a dozen of PAs short of qualifying due to injury I guess, but his .916 OPS is outstanding. His .527 SLG would be 1st too, his .389 OBP would be 2nd

Similar to Holt or Lindor, I expect him to carry over his performance to AAA.
LeaguePark
July 30, 2014 - 6:44 PM EDT
Jeff, are you some kind of medication we should know about?
Jimmy
July 30, 2014 - 6:42 PM EDT
I think the Masterson trade was good since Masterson has not pitched well and never was the ace but
t organization called him the ace. Cory has taken the torch and ran with it. We still need to get rid of Michael Bourn, John Axford, and Nick Swisher and maybe Ryan Rayburn and let Murphy be he back-up.
Still would like Gonzalez from Colorado to play right field and get Milone, pitcher from Oakland. I wish Terry would start trying to please al his players and let the players that are hitting play since no Swisher on DH but Gomes or Perez, who can hit or catch. Time to get serious, please someone tell Terry before it is too late. The an deserve it. Go Tribe.
Ron
July 30, 2014 - 6:34 PM EDT
Ramsey was in AA this year not because he was blocked. It was because he didn't perform well enough in AA last year to merit a promotion. 780 OPS

10 year ML OFer??? ha. In ML next spring? ha
LeaguePark
July 30, 2014 - 6:03 PM EDT
Because he is a 24 year old former 1st round pick only playing at AA level?

If this is Masterson's value, Asdrubal ought to return a bat donut
OhioBaseball
July 30, 2014 - 5:07 PM EDT
Hawk, you're NOT the only one. I didn't care about Ramsey b/c I didn't think he was a great prospect but Naquin was a terrible selection when there were so many good arms available (Wacha, Giolito, Stroman).
Rich
July 30, 2014 - 4:58 PM EDT
Like we need another left-handed hitting outfielder. Still, we got something for nothing so I can't complain.

Masterson has to be kicking himself for not signing the Indians 4-year, $60 million offer last winter.

The other day Masterson was asked why his velocity was down this year. He was surprisingly honest. He said he didn't know. I thought he would blame his knee or something, but he just said that if somebody knows where his velocity went, please let him know.

I wish him the best. Maybe he'll do all right on a team with major league infielders against opponents with no DH.
GSon
July 30, 2014 - 4:53 PM EDT
@Hawk.. Says that the ability to project by the Cardinals was better and is better. but, you can't un-ring a bell..

Another note.. by going to St Louis.. the Cardinals have one of the best rated defenses in all of MLB. WOW>. this with Jhonny Peralta as their infield captain and Kolten Wong, a rookie, as their 2B, Fatty Matty Adams at 1B.. smh.. Defensive metrics are only for the brave...
Hawk1228
July 30, 2014 - 4:47 PM EDT
Does it bother anyone other than me that in 2012 we passed on both Wacha and Ramsey to draft Naquin and now trade away Masterson for someone who we could have had in 2012
Tondo
July 30, 2014 - 4:46 PM EDT
Of course, the Indians now can "use" that saved money to ship it along with a bloated contract (Murphy?). Getting rid of that contract for next season would be well worth it.

FYI and fwiw, mlb.com has already put Ramsey at 5 in the Indians system, just between Zimmer and JRam
Rich S.
July 30, 2014 - 4:41 PM EDT
In retrospect, it would have been much better for the Indians to trade Masterson this off-season and use the money to sign Kazmir instead. But it would have been hard to trade Masterson coming off their playoff (one-game) appearance. If they would have been around .500 like they are and Masterson was pitching well, the Indians management would be skewered.

So I think they had to go with Masterson. But giving how he's pitched, getting a decent prospect in an area of need plus saving $3.5 million, not a bad deal overall.
Robert
July 30, 2014 - 4:38 PM EDT
The team saved a bunch of money. The team got a reasonable prospect. The team lost someone who this year was contributing nothing. The team lost someone who was not coming back as I believe the best we could do was cut him 20% to a ridiculously high level for a crap shoot.

The next to go is Asdrubal.

Bob
Tondo
July 30, 2014 - 4:38 PM EDT
It's a good deal, and the best part might be that it opens up a 40 roster spot, since Ramsey does not need to be added yet.

I hope the Indians continue to sell...ACab, Axford, Murphy...get what you can. What about Atchison? Is he under team control beyond this season? If not, trade him too, he'd be valuable for a contender.

Promote Holt, Adams, CC Lee, Tomlin, Urshela, Aguilar etc and let the young guys sink or swim the next two months. Find out what you have
GSon
July 30, 2014 - 4:29 PM EDT
@ Sell.. Most knowledgeable baseball people know and understand that the last part of a players offensive development comes in the form of power.. There are occasions when a power stroke shows up sooner, but that is the exception, not the rule. It's pretty naïve to think you can look at some stats on a website and come to the conclusion that a player has no power.. has no plus tools.. yada yada.. But, as stated, that would require a greater depth of knowledge...

That excludes you..
Mike
July 30, 2014 - 4:26 PM EDT
Why would anyone be upset Masty was traded? He's hurt and hasn't helped us at all lately. He was going to make another 12 or so starts for us and then sign elsewhere. Now, instead, we have a first round draft choice who could be on the ML team by next summer and whom we control until 2019 at the least.

We were short one pitcher at the beginning of the season and we still are. I'm hoping we can turn some high level prospects into a starting pitcher, hopefully left handed, before the deadline.
Joe Chengery
July 30, 2014 - 4:25 PM EDT
I too like what we got for Masterson. Truthfully, I didn't think there was much chance to trade him until August because he had been injured and ineffective, including in his last start at Columbus. Nice scouting job by the Indians to figure out who was a realistic trade target for Masterson, and then succeed on making the deal. Ramsey should be a nice addition to the system, and could provide another option in RF in the event Moncrief doesn't pan out (as well as CF if Naquin doesn't pan out).

CL Who, trading Masterson earlier in the year would have been an option if the Indians had resigned Jimenez and/or Kazmir, as I and a few others had suggested last offseason, but the Indians decided to stick with Masterson, as I thought they might do, banking on him to lead the staff. That's why they couldn't trade him at the beginning of the season. The fact they got a noted prospect in Ramsey for essentially a lost season and an inconsistent career for Masterson, I certainly think the Indians could have done far worse than they did.

With that said, good luck to Masterson- he was always professional and seemed to be a plus in the clubhouse- nothing against him, just that the price range, his career inconsistency, and his injury history over the past year (including the second half of 2013) just made him too risky to resign to a long-term deal and too risky to provide a qualifying offer to.
Sell The Team
July 30, 2014 - 4:18 PM EDT
Another spin worthy acquisition by the Dolan's!! Ramsey does not possess ONE PLUS TOOL!! High effort, high character guys are great but we need talent at the major league level!! Ramsey's power numbers are almost exactly at 10% XBH vs. ABs… in the Minors… 3 ABs above AA… NOT A GOOD SIGN. Michael Brantley comparisons? Give me a break!!
GSon
July 30, 2014 - 4:17 PM EDT
This is a salary dump..no more.. no less..

Masterson was not contributing to the future of the team THIS year.. and is going to be a FA in two months. Chris Antonetti got a decent prospect from a great minor league system in return. Not bad from a value perspective.. but, certainly not at the value that Masterson could have commanded had he been able to progress as a ML SP. Instead he regressed into a sore knee'd BOR/barely replacement level pitcher that complicated his poor starts by killing the bullpen when he was sent to the showers..

This is a trade that helps the Indians in the short run.. IDK what I would do given the same set of circumstances with this player. I liked his persona.. his attitude.. his charm.. him as a person. His pitching this year was atrocious. Good luck.. hopefully someone else can figure out what ails him..

As far as Jimmy Ramsey goes.. He's the odd man out in the St Louis system for OF'er. Overall, he'll remind you a lot of Toby Harrah.. play defense like Grady.. throw like Choo and hit like Brantley.. There's a lot of "young" Brian Giles in his game as well.. At the end of the day, he'll be a 10 year ML OF'er that will give a team a solid at bat in every plate appearance and make all the routine plays in the OF while throwing the ball to and through the cut off man, every time..

I'm a JImmy Ramsey fan..
Walter
July 30, 2014 - 4:13 PM EDT
Many on this site wanted badly for the FO to sign Masterson to a long term deal after Homer Bailey received his new contract . Many on this site were pissed off that they did not. Therefore, how can FO be negligence when they saw Masterson history of good/bad year/good/bad...etc. They made the right call. Maybe they tried to trade for the max, but other teams might have said no because of Masterson's pitching history.
Daingean
July 30, 2014 - 4:12 PM EDT
The Tribe got a first round talent (22nd overall) without paying the signing bonus for a guy that was going to walk. Does this answer the question of whether we are sellers this trade deadline? That remains to be seen.
Lisa
July 30, 2014 - 4:12 PM EDT
We were up against it trying to move Masterson because he hasn't pitched well and still has to be signed. So to get a player close to the top who has any kind of potential is a plus.
Kyle
July 30, 2014 - 4:04 PM EDT
Or he was supposed to be the ace of the franchise and the indians were heading into the season with a win now mentality, so trading your Ace would not be a smart move for the FO. I commend the front office for how they handled the situation and in the end received a quality prospect in return for masterson.
C L Who
July 30, 2014 - 3:56 PM EDT
I like the trade too. I really would have liked the trade if it had happened in February when it was obvious Masterson could not be resigned at 3 for 17-18 MM each. At that time, he would have returned double, triple, maybe quadruple what he fetched today. I believe the failure to trade earlier is a clear case of admnistrative negligence from the FO.

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