Around the Farm: November 26, 2012
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November 27, 2012
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Around the Farm (ATF) takes a quick look at some of the daily performances by Indians prospects. This is a special fall and winter ball version of ATF that recaps all the offseason action by Indians players in the the Caribbean Leagues. The positions listed below are where the player was playing in the game.
Here is the rundown of what Indians players in winter ball did yesterday. Note, the Australian Baseball League, Puerto Rico Winter League, and Venezuela Winter League were off on Monday.
Dominican Winter League
- Jose Ramirez (2B, Toros del Este): 2-for-4, 2 RBI, BB, CS. Ramirez continues to pile up hits and get on base as he reached base in 3 of his 5 plate appearances on the night. He is now hitting a very good .342 in 22 games this winter and continues to impress not only with his bat-to-ball ability but his plate discipline and on-base skills (14 BB, 9 K).
- Nick Hagadone (RP, Aguilas Cibaenas): 2.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K. This was Hagadone’s third outing so far in winter ball and he gets better and better with each outing. He did not record an out his first outing and faced two hitters allowing a walk and hit, but in the two outings since he has thrown 3.0 shutout-hitless-walkless innings with 5 strikeouts. Getting him healthy and back in the good graces of the team is big for the Indians bullpen next season as he is an impact backend bullpen arm.
- Carlos Santana (DH, Leones del Escogido): 0-for-4, BB, K. Santana was the DH once again in his second winter league game last night, and is now just 1-for-8 with a walk in his first 2 games. The DHing is probably only temporary as he is getting back into game shape, and probably will play some games at catcher or even first base soon.
- Juan Diaz (SS, Estrellas de Oriente): 3-for-5, R. Diaz is having a solid winter ball showing hitting .286 with an OPS north of .700 in 28 games. An area of concern for him continues to be the lack of plate discipline as he has 4 walks and 15 strikeouts, and this past season had 29 walks and 113 strikeouts.
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User Comments
Dennis
November 27, 2012 - 9:06 AM EST
Hagadone was moved to the pen, like so many Indians power armed pitchers. The move was in response to over burdening his surgically repaired elbow. Now, two and a half years later, he's still in the pen.. and appears to be staying there.
WHY DO THE INDIANS MOVE SO MANY OF THEIR POWER ARMS TO THE PEN. THE SP ROTATION IS CRYING FOR A LEFT HANDER. YET, he's going to be a promising bullpen guy.. JUST LIKE SCOTTY BARNES, NOW A LEFT HANDED RELIEVER.
These moves to the pen 'get' the players to the majors faster, but at what cost?. This, imho, is misuse of the talent. The only thing worse than misusing talent is not recognizing it.
WHY DO THE INDIANS MOVE SO MANY OF THEIR POWER ARMS TO THE PEN. THE SP ROTATION IS CRYING FOR A LEFT HANDER. YET, he's going to be a promising bullpen guy.. JUST LIKE SCOTTY BARNES, NOW A LEFT HANDED RELIEVER.
These moves to the pen 'get' the players to the majors faster, but at what cost?. This, imho, is misuse of the talent. The only thing worse than misusing talent is not recognizing it.
Larry
November 27, 2012 - 8:34 AM EST
Maybe we can debate if I'm being to hard on Santana, but we can't debate the fact he has hit .260, .239, and .252 with the Indians. I have been a Tribe fan for the better part of sixty years and this team has no one to get excited about. And if Santana is the mvp they are in serious, serious trouble.
Jim
November 27, 2012 - 2:48 AM EST
Diaz has really picked things up, which really follows his pattern during the 2012 season. The plate discipline is what it is, and this pattern isn't going to change any time soon.
Nick Hagadone is flat out one of the most talented pitchers in the organization, and while he shouldn't be overlooked, he really has to prove that he has more in the mental department. If he can fix or change perception, and perform, his pitching talent is as good as anyone. Having a lefty fireballer would be a massive upgrade to the pen...
Nick Hagadone is flat out one of the most talented pitchers in the organization, and while he shouldn't be overlooked, he really has to prove that he has more in the mental department. If he can fix or change perception, and perform, his pitching talent is as good as anyone. Having a lefty fireballer would be a massive upgrade to the pen...
As for Hagadone, he was always projected as a reliever. He relieved in college and was only a starter in the minors early on to help develop his stuff and to keep starting as an option. He lacks the fastball command needed to start and doesn't have a reliable third pitch. And of course, there is that fear of injury hanging over him. Barnes is still a starting option, and will be one next season, though the Indians will use him in a role that fits the team next year.