ST Games Thread

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:12 pm

Although they dont mean much its hard not to follow even ST games with how exciting this team should be this year
no TV or Radio coverage to my knowledge today, game starting vs Reds Giovanny Soto getting the start

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:13 pm

Soto struggling big time early, walked Choo, then back to back base hits by Phillips and Votto 1-0 Reds runners on 1st and 3rd no out, Wild Pitch to Ludwick 2-0 Reds Votto at 2nd no out

by **GoTribe028** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:18 pm

SwisherBuck11 wrote:Soto struggling big time early, walked Choo, then back to back base hits by Phillips and Votto 1-0 Reds runners on 1st and 3rd no out, Wild Pitch to Ludwick 2-0 Reds Votto at 2nd no out

Yeah got the MLB At Bat app playing through my ipod radio, sounds great actually.

Sounds like Soto can't locate anything. Wouldn't be concerned with the hits though, usually guys don't throw many breaking pitches, and the Reds lineup is a far cry from High A hitters that Soto has faced.

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:19 pm

Soto is actually used to facing AA not High A but still, Soto has thrown 11 Pitches according to game cast, 3 strikes 8 balls, given up 2 Walks and 2 Base hits with 1 wild pitch

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:21 pm

Frazier hits into fielders choice ACab threw to 3rd, runner scored from 3rd, 3-0 Reds 2 out 1 on 1st

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:25 pm

Soto just throwing meatballs at this point, he already seems to have no confidence, last 4 pitches in the zone and have been hit, Double for Cozard

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:25 pm

Soto is done, replaced by Fernando Nieve

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:28 pm

2 Run double, 5-0 Reds by Ryan Hannigan on 1st pitch by new pitcher

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:33 pm

top 1 finally over, the 2 pitchers combined to throw 19 pitches giving up 2 walks (8 Pitches) and 4 Hits on 4 pitches (Soto gave up 3 straight 1st pitch hits, Nieva did the same on his first pitch) Soto threw 5 Strikes to 11 out of the zone

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:50 pm

Bourn goes 1 pitch 1 out
ACab walks on 4 straight
Kipnis K's on 3 straight
ACab with a steal
Swisher RBI Base hit to RF
Brantley with an RBI Double to L-C, Swisher scored from 1st
Santana singles on a fly ball to CF (Choo) Brantley scores from 2nd
Santana caught trying to steal

end of 1 Reds 5 Tribe 3

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:58 pm

Choo goes 1 out 1 pitch in the top 2nd flys out to Brantley
Phillips strikes out on 3 straight 2 down
Votto base hit up the middle
Ludwick up the middle 2 on 2 out
Bruce flys out to Bourn

bottom 2nd, Reds 5 Tribe 3, Reynolds leading off

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:13 pm

Pitching change for the reds Curtis Partch replaced Cingrani
Reynolds with a base hit down 3B Line
Chisenhall pops out to Votto, 1 out
Stubbs with a base hit (good for him to do vs the Reds), Reynolds to 2nd
2 on 1 out for Bourn
Bourn walks on 4 straight
Bases loaded 1 out for ACab
ACab hits into FC, Stubbs out at 3rd, Bourn at 2nd, ACab at 1st, Reynolds scored 5-4 Reds 2 on 2 out
Kipnis K's again on 3 straight

top 3 Reds up 5-4

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:22 pm

Vinny Pestano in at start of the 3rd, Nieve threw 9 pitches 9 strikes
Frazier 1 pitch 1 out
Cozard 1 pitch 1 out
Hannigan 1 pitch 1 out

Pestano in mid-season form in the top of the 3rd

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:39 pm

bottom 3rd
Swisher grounds out
Brantley doubles again today 2 for 2
Balk moves Brantley to 3rd, Santana up 1 out
Santana RBI Base Hit tie game
Reynolds flys out to RF 2 out
Chisenhall with a 2 run HR! 7-5 Tribe

Clay Hensley new pitcher for Reds

Stubbs lines out to 2nd to end the inning
top 4th Tribe up 7-5

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:46 pm

Joe Martinez replaced Vinny Pestano
Indians take out all starters besides Reynolds at DH

by **SwisherBuck11** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:56 pm

Nice pitchers duel, Tribe win with 3 in the bottom of the 9th 11-10

by **GeronimoSon** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:54 pm

SwisherBuck11 wrote:Nice pitchers duel, Tribe win with 3 in the bottom of the 9th 11-10

It's nice to have real baseball (even spring training games).. it's nice to win the game.. Soto and Joe who?..ouch, not the way either guy wanted to start the spring training season on the hill...

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:21 pm

Tribe up 1-0 on a throwing error trying to pick-off Kipnis (Donald was fielding)

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:22 pm

Also Marson is catching tody, Giambi is starting DH, Reynolds starting 1st

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:30 pm

Myers not really tring to miss the plate too much, just doesn't seem like he really wants to be out there
5 batters, 5 pitches
2 Base hits, 1 HBP and 2 outs

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:32 pm

1st Inning 2 Hits, 2 Walks (1 HBP) 1 ER for Myers 10 Pitches

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:36 pm

Brantley is on fire
3 for 3 in ST, 3 Doubles!

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:39 pm

Chisenhall RBI single
2-1 Tribe

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:48 pm

4-1 Tribe ACab with a 2 RBI single

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:58 pm

4-2 Tribe, Phillips scored Choo on a double from 2nd

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:59 pm

Followed by a wild pitch the very next one, a WP in both ST so far, Concern?

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:08 pm

another 2-2 game for Brantley

by **GeronimoSon** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:43 pm

The Tribe got their 11 runs.. time to end the game..

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:02 pm

41 Combined runs between the 2 teams and the 2nd games not even over

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:24 pm

Ryan Raburn making a really early case to make the team
Batting 1.000 3 HRs 5 RBI in ST

by **GeronimoSon** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:27 pm

SwisherBuck11 wrote:Ryan Raburn making a really early case to make the team
Batting 1.000 3 HRs 5 RBI in ST

When the deal was announced that the Indians had signed Ryan Raburn on MLB Trade Rumors, in the comments section was a rather telling note: Ryan Raburn is a Spring Training MVP.. So, I looked into what the note said & sure enough, Ryan Raburn has had some EPIC spring training performances.. Subsequent to ST.. & probably for any number of reasons, Raburn hasn't been able to take his spring training success into the regular season.. Perhaps w/ him being signed to a minor league contract (and no indication of an opt out, although, this could be inaccurate), he may start the year in AAA, continue to get the kind of playing time a first utility guy should get, and he can then translate his spring training numbers into success in MLB.. I hope he does..

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:14 pm

Well the way i saw it in terms of position guys, all spots were locked up outside of 1, you had everyone in the lineups, and the 4 bench spots locked up where Aviles, Marson, Giambi and that 4th spot was up for grabs between Raburn, Carrerra, and Gomes but if we bring Theroit in then its a moot point unless Giambi doesn't make it

by **A.Zajac** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:52 pm

GeronimoSon wrote:
SwisherBuck11 wrote:Ryan Raburn making a really early case to make the team
Batting 1.000 3 HRs 5 RBI in ST

When the deal was announced that the Indians had signed Ryan Raburn on MLB Trade Rumors, in the comments section was a rather telling note: Ryan Raburn is a Spring Training MVP.. So, I looked into what the note said & sure enough, Ryan Raburn has had some EPIC spring training performances.. Subsequent to ST.. & probably for any number of reasons, Raburn hasn't been able to take his spring training success into the regular season.. Perhaps w/ him being signed to a minor league contract (and no indication of an opt out, although, this could be inaccurate), he may start the year in AAA, continue to get the kind of playing time a first utility guy should get, and he can then translate his spring training numbers into success in MLB.. I hope he does..

Raburn is more than likely going to make the team.. not start in AAA.

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:20 pm

Brewers game more meaningful with Carrassco, Kazmir, Bauer, Hagadone and Salazar in the rotation

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:31 pm

McCallister shutting the Reds down

2 IP 0 Hits 1 BB 2 K

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:33 pm

Carrasco struggling big time, may not make it to the 2nd inning

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:27 pm

Kazmir looks good
2 IP 1 H 1 K 0 BB 0 R
McCallister pitched 3 No hit shutout innings vs the Reds

by **GeronimoSon** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:29 pm

Zmac's effort = $$.. Nice way to start his Spring..

Sad news about Curtis Granderson.. boo hoo...

Carlos did struggle out of the gate.. but Scott Kazmir picked him up.. maybe Tito's enthusiasm was warranted.. lot of baseball yet to be played this spring..

Raburn <== is NOT more than likely to anything....

Rich Hill extricated himself from a jam.. good for that.. not so good for creating the jam (two walks)..

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:48 pm

Bauer pulled a Brett Myers, didnt really try threw alot over the plate

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:55 pm

after 44 Combined runs between the 2 teams the last 2 days, the Indians take a 2-0 lead with 2 out in the bottom of the 7th

Reds have just 1 hit

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:24 pm

Indians won both games 3-0 and 7-4
Reds held to just 1 hit
Bauer got the W vs the Brewers

by **martyinnewyork** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:46 pm

SwisherBuck - thanks for the updates, I've been following...

by **SwisherBuck11** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:51 pm

Poor Carrasco, Literally the only pitcher for the Tribe to give up Runs today
17 Shut-out innings by the Staff

by **A.Zajac** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:42 pm

GeronimoSon wrote:Zmac's effort = $$.. Nice way to start his Spring..

Sad news about Curtis Granderson.. boo hoo...

Carlos did struggle out of the gate.. but Scott Kazmir picked him up.. maybe Tito's enthusiasm was warranted.. lot of baseball yet to be played this spring..

Raburn <== is NOT more than likely to anything....

Rich Hill extricated himself from a jam.. good for that.. not so good for creating the jam (two walks)..

It's pretty obvious Raburn has been a favorite to win a job out of ST and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

by **GeronimoSon** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:56 pm

A.Zajac wrote:
GeronimoSon wrote:Zmac's effort = $$.. Nice way to start his Spring..

Sad news about Curtis Granderson.. boo hoo...

Carlos did struggle out of the gate.. but Scott Kazmir picked him up.. maybe Tito's enthusiasm was warranted.. lot of baseball yet to be played this spring..

Raburn <== is NOT more than likely to anything....

Rich Hill extricated himself from a jam.. good for that.. not so good for creating the jam (two walks)..

It's pretty obvious Raburn has been a favorite to win a job out of ST and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Players who sign Minor league contracts are not favorites to win anything.. if you believe that, you're deluding yourself... & that's the only thing that's obvious...

by **A.Zajac** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:08 am

GeronimoSon wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
GeronimoSon wrote:Zmac's effort = $$.. Nice way to start his Spring..

Sad news about Curtis Granderson.. boo hoo...

Carlos did struggle out of the gate.. but Scott Kazmir picked him up.. maybe Tito's enthusiasm was warranted.. lot of baseball yet to be played this spring..

Raburn <== is NOT more than likely to anything....

Rich Hill extricated himself from a jam.. good for that.. not so good for creating the jam (two walks)..

It's pretty obvious Raburn has been a favorite to win a job out of ST and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Players who sign Minor league contracts are not favorites to win anything.. if you believe that, you're deluding yourself... & that's the only thing that's obvious...

So enlighten me who on the roster was a favorite ahead of Raburn? I mean seriously.

by **SwisherBuck11** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:34 am

A.Zajac wrote:
GeronimoSon wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
GeronimoSon wrote:Zmac's effort = $$.. Nice way to start his Spring..

Sad news about Curtis Granderson.. boo hoo...

Carlos did struggle out of the gate.. but Scott Kazmir picked him up.. maybe Tito's enthusiasm was warranted.. lot of baseball yet to be played this spring..

Raburn <== is NOT more than likely to anything....

Rich Hill extricated himself from a jam.. good for that.. not so good for creating the jam (two walks)..

It's pretty obvious Raburn has been a favorite to win a job out of ST and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Players who sign Minor league contracts are not favorites to win anything.. if you believe that, you're deluding yourself... & that's the only thing that's obvious...

So enlighten me who on the roster was a favorite ahead of Raburn? I mean seriously.

Carrera is out of options and is better then putting a utillity guy like Aviles or Raburn in the OF

by **A.Zajac** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:25 am

SwisherBuck11 wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
GeronimoSon wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
GeronimoSon wrote:Zmac's effort = $$.. Nice way to start his Spring..

Sad news about Curtis Granderson.. boo hoo...

Carlos did struggle out of the gate.. but Scott Kazmir picked him up.. maybe Tito's enthusiasm was warranted.. lot of baseball yet to be played this spring..

Raburn <== is NOT more than likely to anything....

Rich Hill extricated himself from a jam.. good for that.. not so good for creating the jam (two walks)..

It's pretty obvious Raburn has been a favorite to win a job out of ST and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Players who sign Minor league contracts are not favorites to win anything.. if you believe that, you're deluding yourself... & that's the only thing that's obvious...

So enlighten me who on the roster was a favorite ahead of Raburn? I mean seriously.

Carrera is out of options and is better then putting a utillity guy like Aviles or Raburn in the OF

Right, but Raburn isn't just strictly an OF guy. He can play in the INF too and his versatility is what makes him valuable. I mean at one point, there was some thought Carrera could get DFA for an incoming FA/trade to make room on the roster.

by **daingean** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:05 am

A.Zajac wrote:
SwisherBuck11 wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
GeronimoSon wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
GeronimoSon wrote:Zmac's effort = $$.. Nice way to start his Spring..

Sad news about Curtis Granderson.. boo hoo...

Carlos did struggle out of the gate.. but Scott Kazmir picked him up.. maybe Tito's enthusiasm was warranted.. lot of baseball yet to be played this spring..

Raburn <== is NOT more than likely to anything....

Rich Hill extricated himself from a jam.. good for that.. not so good for creating the jam (two walks)..

It's pretty obvious Raburn has been a favorite to win a job out of ST and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Players who sign Minor league contracts are not favorites to win anything.. if you believe that, you're deluding yourself... & that's the only thing that's obvious...

So enlighten me who on the roster was a favorite ahead of Raburn? I mean seriously.

Carrera is out of options and is better then putting a utillity guy like Aviles or Raburn in the OF

Right, but Raburn isn't just strictly an OF guy. He can play in the INF too and his versatility is what makes him valuable. I mean at one point, there was some thought Carrera could get DFA for an incoming FA/trade to make room on the roster.

I think it's too early to award anyone a roster spot. Raburn has certainly taken a lead but the first few weeks of ST guys often face NRI and pitchers destined for AA or AAA. Raburn's versatility vs. Carrera's speed but I see that both could make the roster especially if Gomes is sent down and Giambi doesn't cut it. I for one would like to have Carrera's speed on the bench as that could squeeze a 1-5 extra wins.

by **GeronimoSon** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:04 am

daingean wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
SwisherBuck11 wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
GeronimoSon wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
GeronimoSon wrote:Zmac's effort = $$.. Nice way to start his Spring..

Sad news about Curtis Granderson.. boo hoo...

Carlos did struggle out of the gate.. but Scott Kazmir picked him up.. maybe Tito's enthusiasm was warranted.. lot of baseball yet to be played this spring..

Raburn <== is NOT more than likely to anything....

Rich Hill extricated himself from a jam.. good for that.. not so good for creating the jam (two walks)..

It's pretty obvious Raburn has been a favorite to win a job out of ST and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Players who sign Minor league contracts are not favorites to win anything.. if you believe that, you're deluding yourself... & that's the only thing that's obvious...

So enlighten me who on the roster was a favorite ahead of Raburn? I mean seriously.

Carrera is out of options and is better then putting a utillity guy like Aviles or Raburn in the OF

Right, but Raburn isn't just strictly an OF guy. He can play in the INF too and his versatility is what makes him valuable. I mean at one point, there was some thought Carrera could get DFA for an incoming FA/trade to make room on the roster.

I think it's too early to award anyone a roster spot. Raburn has certainly taken a lead but the first few weeks of ST guys often face NRI and pitchers destined for AA or AAA. Raburn's versatility vs. Carrera's speed but I see that both could make the roster especially if Gomes is sent down and Giambi doesn't cut it. I for one would like to have Carrera's speed on the bench as that could squeeze a 1-5 extra wins.

Serious candidates for the last one or two spots on the 25 man roster.. at this stage of spring training, roster construction is all that can be used to determine the make up:

Catchers: 2 and possibly three: Carlos Santana, Lou Marson, (Yan Gomes)
c-Infielders: 3 and possibly four: Lonnie Chisenhall, Nick Swisher, Mark Reynolds (Mcdade, McGuiness, Aguilar)
m-Infielders: 3 and possibly four: Asdrubal Cabrera, Jason Kipnis, Mike Aviles (Cord Phelps, Ryan Raburn, Juan Diaz)
Outfielders: 3 and possibly four: Michael Brantley, Michael Bourn, Drew Stubbs (Carrera, Francisco, Fedroff)
DH: possibly 1: (Jason Giambi)

The roster consists of 13 position players. Eleven spots are virtual locks (assuming health and trades). The two remaining spots appear to be one outfielder and one infielder. GUESSING (as right now is ALL that can be done) my choices would be Zeke Carrera and Jason Giambi taking the last two spots but I could see the last spot going to Cord Phelps, Ryan Raburn and or Ben Francisco. Three weeks from now.. that can change..

Guessing is all that can be done at this point.. I'd also guess that Ben Francisco could be of minor interest to the NYY's after losing Curtis Granderson. This is the kind of trade that might include a low level A player the Indians like (and conversely, the Yankees dislike) or cash considerations. Not really much more than that..

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