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[homerawayfromhome]

Agree with the 3rd round money vs next year and potentially losing 1st round money. Just not sure the Tribe can afford another big contract even if they moved Perez. Never say never I guess though. Maybe really front load a deal...

As soon as I saw Young sign with the Phillies I thought the same thing on Domonic Brown. Could platoon with Stubbs. Not sure Albers gets it done (not sure the Tribe wants to move him anyways). Was thinking maybe Carrera and a middling spec? Would like to see how Brown takes to a change of scenery.

I somewhat disagree, I think they could afford another piece but it has to be the right circumstances. They have made it known they would go over budget in the right instance. For example Kyle Lohse is said to want 4 yrs based on what I've heard. There's no way Id do 4 yrs and I'd doubt the Tribe would want to go three but they might for the right deal. Looking at the Rafael Soriano deal makes me think the Tribe could always defer some money or more preferable offer a sizable option buyout.

Here's what I'm getting at: offer Kyle Lohse something like...

2yrs w/ a team option
2013: $7 M
2014: $15 M
2015: $15 M w/ a $3 M buyout

Overall potential value $37 M, overall true value for 2 yrs / $25 M.

As for Michael Bourn I think the Tribe should remain open to signing him as well. At this point however I'm not convinced he's worth more than Shane Victorino and IMO he's certainly not worth the same value as Nick Swisher, although that would probably be the jumping off point. Drew Stubbs certainly offers the Tribe a unique talent in CF but Bourn would offer a top of the lineup piece unlike they've had in a while.

Maybe the Tribe could get something done with Michael Bourn like 4 yrs / $52 M w/ 5th yr team option for $13M with a $3 M buyout...or...4 yrs / $56 with a 5th yr team option for $14 M and a $2 M buyout. I know Bourn isn't necessarily a need for the Tribe but he would provide a legit lead off hitter that provides solid defense / speed. Stubbs offers both speed and defense but he's not a premier lead off hitter as Bourn has been.

Maybe the Tribe could do something like...

4yrs / team option for 5th yr
2013: $7 M
2014: $14 M
2015: $14 M
2016: $14 M
2017: $14 M team option w/ $3 M buyout.

Overall potential value: $59 M, overall true value: 4 yrs / $52 M.

The Tribe is already over budget though based on what Antonetti said earlier this offseason. Not sure they can add more.

I would sign Lohse to that deal but think he can do better. Tribe payroll for 2014 also needs to be considered.

Im not convinced the Tribe is out of the running on a guy like Lohse. Yes, they probably are completely out on Bourn unless he signed alot cheaper than what is expected. Back to Lohse they have expressed they could go to $80M and potentially over for the right person / right deal. I think the Tribe could still be in on Lohse, it may meaning moving a bullpen arm like Joe Smith to free a little more wiggle room. At this point though it seems the Tribe may go after another arm or two on a minor league deal like Matsuzaka or Zambrano.

[GeronimoSon]

Homer.. I'd love to believe the Indians and Mr Dolan will do as you've suggested and go over a little..That's one thing I think we can all agree upon. ...& yes it might take some "wiggling" to get there.. and no team, especially the Indians, can afford to wiggle.. but, in this market with the stakes being as high as they are and teams like Texas & Anaheim involved and interested in Lohse's services, a first year discount as you've illustrated just doesn't seem at all possible. sadly :-(.

He would vastly lengthen the Indians starting staff.. something every team can use....

[homerawayfromhome]

I'm not so sure that the Indians are out of the picture with Lohse, but the circumstances (length & $$$) would seemingly have to be right. Honestly, I would have thought he'd be off the mkt by now. Another and perhaps a better / more reasonable option (no draft pk comp) for the Tribe could be Joe Saunders. Saunders does nothing sexy, but is appealing bc he's going to be consistently productive and log some decent innings.

Jair Jurjjens could be another option, on a one yr deal but his price is probably still high but he is the only FA SP remaining that I can think of off hand that still could have some upside. In fact Jurjjens could have a better season than Lohse and a much better price.

[GeronimoSon]

I'm not so sure that the Indians are out of the picture with Lohse, but the circumstances (length & $$$) would seemingly have to be right. Honestly, I would have thought he'd be off the mkt by now. Another and perhaps a better / more reasonable option (no draft pk comp) for the Tribe could be Joe Saunders. Saunders does nothing sexy, but is appealing bc he's going to be consistently productive and log some decent innings.

Jair Jurjjens could be another option, on a one yr deal but his price is probably still high but he is the only FA SP remaining that I can think of off hand that still could have some upside. In fact Jurjjens could have a better season than Lohse and a much better price.

The trades or acquisitions that could matter would be to teams like the Dodgers, A's, Jays, Rays, & Redbirds that have a front office that believes they're one piece away from truly contending for the chance to play meaningful games in October. The Indians number one focus has to remain on a trade that brings impact starting pitching to our wigwam..

Example: The Jays.. are absolutely in the mix for the AL East title, perhaps even favored, but they appear to have one weakness, back of the pen depth.. The Jays are all in for 2013.. They cannot let a "soft"back of the pen be their achilles heel that derails their chances.. A trade of CP or, perhaps even Vinnie, knowing full well the uncertainty of additions like Shaw & Albers and not knowing if prospects like Cody Allen are going to be able to step it u and become members of the soon to be new bullpen mafia.. It wouldn't take much for Alex Anthopopoulus come to the conclusion that he'd rather have Vinnie or CP in 2013 instead of hoping the pen holds up.. For that 'security', it could cost Aaron Sanchez..

Wouldn't your rather have the potential for an impact SP over the "hope you know" value of a BP arm?.. That's the question. Each of the teams listed have this kind of situation.. Cards = middle infield, dodgers = pen depth/3rd Bass/SS, Rays = CF/Lead off hitter; A's = SS as Nakajima is a complete unknown...

Other teams may present themselves, however, none are more close to being that one guy away like these five teams.. and all five could have the impact players the Indians desperately need...

The Orioles are about to sign Jair Jurrjens to a one year deal @ $ 1.5 MM with incentives to nearly triple that..JJ is sort of a similar SP that JeanMar Gomez is.. a AAAA journeyman or a back of the rotation SP at the ML level.. not much more..

[homerawayfromhome]

I'm not so sure that the Indians are out of the picture with Lohse, but the circumstances (length & $$$) would seemingly have to be right. Honestly, I would have thought he'd be off the mkt by now. Another and perhaps a better / more reasonable option (no draft pk comp) for the Tribe could be Joe Saunders. Saunders does nothing sexy, but is appealing bc he's going to be consistently productive and log some decent innings.

Jair Jurjjens could be another option, on a one yr deal but his price is probably still high but he is the only FA SP remaining that I can think of off hand that still could have some upside. In fact Jurjjens could have a better season than Lohse and a much better price.

The trades or acquisitions that could matter would be to teams like the Dodgers, A's, Jays, Rays, & Redbirds that have a front office that believes they're one piece away from truly contending for the chance to play meaningful games in October. The Indians number one focus has to remain on a trade that brings impact starting pitching to our wigwam..

Example: The Jays.. are absolutely in the mix for the AL East title, perhaps even favored, but they appear to have one weakness, back of the pen depth.. The Jays are all in for 2013.. They cannot let a "soft"back of the pen be their achilles heel that derails their chances.. A trade of CP or, perhaps even Vinnie, knowing full well the uncertainty of additions like Shaw & Albers and not knowing if prospects like Cody Allen are going to be able to step it u and become members of the soon to be new bullpen mafia.. It wouldn't take much for Alex Anthopopoulus come to the conclusion that he'd rather have Vinnie or CP in 2013 instead of hoping the pen holds up.. For that 'security', it could cost Aaron Sanchez..

Wouldn't your rather have the potential for an impact SP over the "hope you know" value of a BP arm?.. That's the question. Each of the teams listed have this kind of situation.. Cards = middle infield, dodgers = pen depth/3rd Bass/SS, Rays = CF/Lead off hitter; A's = SS as Nakajima is a complete unknown...

Other teams may present themselves, however, none are more close to being that one guy away like these five teams.. and all five could have the impact players the Indians desperately need...

The Orioles are about to sign Jair Jurrjens to a one year deal @ $ 1.5 MM with incentives to nearly triple that..JJ is sort of a similar SP that JeanMar Gomez is.. a AAAA journeyman or a back of the rotation SP at the ML level.. not much more..

I don't think it's out of the picture to see another deal or two by the Tribe. There are other teams out there seeking some finishing pieces as you have alluded to. It wouldn't put the Tribe behind the 8 ball if they were to make a move with ACab, Chris Perez or even Vinnie Pestano. The return would have to be high obviously, and it would have to bring back qlty pieces in return. But for the most part trades seem likely done, that said there is always a few larger pieces moved as ST nears. Last yr AJ Burnett was traded in a salary dump type move in mid February.

The A's, Dodgers, and Jays are all teams that seemingly would make a move...reportedly the A's have made inquiries as recently as yesterday on Jed Lowrie which is a good indication that they want an upgrade up the middle. The Dodgers and Cards appear willing to take it to spring to see what they really have on their team. The Jays are reportedly willing to add BP help but at the right price...and the same could be said for the Cards, it seems they are willing to deal but also are trying to stick close to budget. Could that one allusive piece cause a team to splurge? I think so in the case of both the Dodgers and Jays. The Rays are not an impulsive team, nor are the A's and Cards but the A's are somewhat free traders so who knows with them.

Recent Cuban imports Aledmys Diaz (23) - SS and Alexander Guerrero (26) -SS could be in the equation as well. However, signing these unknown commodities at potentially a high price could move teams toward looking at more known pieces such as ACab. Personally, Id like to see the Tribe in on Diaz and Dariel Alvarez (24) -OF also a recent import via Cuba by way of Mexico.

[GeronimoSon]

Musings on a Friday morning as I wait to get on a plane to head north..bye bye 77 degrees.. hello ice storm !!!!

The A's inquiry regarding the availability of Jed Lowrie shows they may not be completely confident in their choice regarding Nakajima as their SS of the now or future. Both the A's and the Pirates find themselves in about the same boat.. both have a guy who can put on a uniform and stand in the right spot, but, what happens from there is anybody's guess. The Pirates have Clint Barmes slated to be their starter with the only prospect in sight being a 20 year old who might be a better 2B than a SS... Both the A's and Pirates have projected FOR/MOR SP candidates that would interest the Indians..

FWIW, I don't believe the Dodgers are at all satisfied or ready to call the off season complete and go to camp with who they already have.. That team has a ginormous group of egos in charge who are pounding on the desk top & screaming at anyone so that they make damn sure they finish ahead of the Giants in the NL West.. They absolutely need to make that one additional move to achieve that end..

The Cuban Connections: it's looking more and more like there is going to be a feeding frenzy over Diaz and Alvarez if they ever actually work out in front of scouts and other interested parties. When it comes to bidding wars, the Indians usually find them selves tied for second with everyone else.. That said, there is a slightly better chance the Indians acquire Alvarez as the number of teams looking for ANY kind of support/depth at SS are plentiful and wealthy...

[homerawayfromhome]

I tend to think the Tribe could dip back into the mkt if the price is to their liking. Tony alluded to the Tribes continued interest in Lohse, albeit from a distance. I tend to think the Tribe could reach out aggressively once more and snag a top tier qlty FA in Kyle Lohse at a minimal penalty.

I still think the Tribe could look to move Smith or Perez throughout ST as injuries occur to alleviate some financial strain.
Maybe the Tribe does something like... 2 yrs / $26 M similar to the deal David Ortiz signed with the RedSox and at the same prince annually as Edwin Jackson's deal. The Tribe could look to defer money over a few seasons and offer Lohse a vesting option / mutual option as well.

2013 $7 M
2014 $15 M
2015 $15 M team option with a buyout of $4 M.

[homerawayfromhome]

All the ACab to the Cards speculation may finally be coming to an end as the Cards are rumored to pursuing Ronny Cedeno as an insurance policy at SS/2b. Then again IF Furcal does go down with yet another injury I think it's a real possibility that the Tribe and Cards have a few discussions. Just saying...

Shaun Marcum reportedly signed for $4 M and got an additional $4 M in incentives. Curiously, Joe Saunders seems to have little action surrounding him. I'd still like to see the Tribe in on a few arms like Daisuke Matsuzaka, Carlos Zambrano, and Chris Young on minor league deals.

[homerawayfromhome]

The controversy regarding Cuban import Aledmys Diaz could cost him millions....Ben Badler is reporting that MLB is investigating his true age and its suspected he may be 21/22 instead of 23. If it is the case any potential deal he signs could put a club over the IFA spending limits. Furthermore, MLB would likely void any deal with Diaz and suspend him for a yr as they have with others who have lied about their age.

Diaz would benefit tremendously if he is truly age 23, as he would not count against a teams International FA spending pool. This could slow the mkt for Diaz to a complete stop and may be part of the reason he has delayed workouts for MLB clubs.

[GeronimoSon]

The controversy regarding Cuban import Aledmys Diaz could cost him millions....Ben Badler is reporting that MLB is investigating his true age and its suspected he may be 21/22 instead of 23. If it is the case any potential deal he signs could put a club over the IFA spending limits. Furthermore, MLB would likely void any deal with Diaz and suspend him for a yr as they have with others who have lied about their age.

Diaz would benefit tremendously if he is truly age 23, as he would not count against a teams International FA spending pool. This could slow the mkt for Diaz to a complete stop and may be part of the reason he has delayed workouts for MLB clubs.

It's just too strange that his Aldemys Diaz was born on January 8th, 1990 (1/8/90) instead of August 1st, 1990 (8/1/90).. Someone is either dyslexic or can't read a birthdate.. Best guess.. any investigation that comes of this is pure grandstanding nonsense.

As far as Ronny Cedeno being discussed.. well, how about that !!.. all off season the the Cards have claimed they are perfectly happy with Rafael Furcal being 100 % healthy and ready to go.. all off season.. right up until a couple of weeks before pitchers and catchers report to spring training.. Sounds a LOT like a bargaining ploy more that interest in Ronny Cedeno, who's been available all off season..

[homerawayfromhome]

Honestly, I think John Mo is a bit hesitant to trade away any pitching, can't say I blame him. Looking closer at the Cards rotation and its easy to see some reasons for concern, but truly they have the depth to sustain a cpl injuries to their rotation or even move a few SP in trades at the same time and not really be set back. They are easily one of the deepest farms and don't panic and make foolish moves.

All that said, I don't see how they can reasonably go into this coming season without bringing in a SS. Seriously, the Cards were on the door step, one piece like ACab could easily put them over the top.

Fwiw, I read I think on the Cards site that Jaime Garcia is expected to be back healthy this season, but they also noted 3 doctors recommended surgery for his shoulder. He could be relegated to the BP or the DL depending on how healthy he truly is.

Ronny Cedeno is an alright piece, as far as backup qlty 2b / SS go and a minor league deal for the Cards wouldn't hurt. But seriously, he's not the answer nor is Rafael Furcal who has only avg. 98 games in recent seasons. There's almost been too much talk surrounding ACab to the Cards to think at some point something won't get done, but when? And how much truth is behind all the rumors. Obviously some, but to what measure?

Personally, I don't see guys like ACab and Chris Perez as long term pieces for this club. For that matter even Justin Masterson IF he's not open to an extension and even that is tentative at best bc if his most recent performance. Masterson however, believes he was affected by offseason shldr surgery to his non-throwing shldr that affected his overall mechanics.

[GeronimoSon]

Both Asdrubal Cabrera and Chris Perez are clearly not long term answers, not if history has anything to show us. Both are entering into the penultimate seasons from a contract/control perspective. Both are very talented and capable. The Indians would love nothing more than to have these guys around for the next five or six years, but, not at the spiraling out of control prices that talented players charge. Trading these guys is the only means the Indians have to achieve equal value for them.. and even at that, the Indians will have to wait and take on additional risk...

The Cardinals and Indians fit for needs and excesses at this time. The Cardinals are patient. Good for them. The Cardinals middle infield problems aren't getting better with age. A band-aid like Ronny Cedeno only works for guys who the Cardinals have the ability to 'coach up'. Cedeno isn't that guy.. The Indians should stand firm on their price for Asdrubal. No less than one impact SP candidate, one impact position player candidate.

The Mariners and the Indians are certainly a fit. The Mariners SS situation and impossible OF/DH/IB mess needs a LOT of help. The Mariners have the kind of prospects the Indians are in need of.. The Mariners absolutely need to move some guys on their out of whack roster..

The Dodgers and Indians are a fit.. The Dodgers have a nobody at 3B and a starting SS that can play either 3B or SS. This is a good match.. and the Dodgers have two very special prospects that would look great with Chief Wahoo on their sleeve...

The Toronto Blue Jays maybe be an EXCELLENT fit for Chris Perez.. and the Jays have at least one SP candidate that would be perfect for the Indians..

All these moves won't happen, but, here's hoping at least one does...

[Edible14]

At this point I doubt the Indians have the financial flexibility to get Lohse/Bourn without moving Perez and/or ACab. And I don't think deferred money is going to help because the Indians don't stand to lose a lot of payroll (only expiring contracts are Myers/Reynolds and two relievers), but stand to gain a lot more in arbitration. I'd like to trade ACab just because I think his value won't ever be higher, but I don't think that's in the cards. What I'd really like to see is Ubaldo traded to clear budget and roster room for Lohse. I'd take even a c-grade minor leaguer for him if you can pick up Lohse with the savings.

It strikes me that picking up Ubaldo's option has been terrible for us, as it could end up being the thing that keeps us "out" on a better pitcher.

In former Indian news... Vinny Rottino is now playing in Japan for Orinx. Jerad Head was signed by the Nats to a minor league deal, and Thomas Neal joins Russ Canzler on the Yankees (minor league deal).

[GeronimoSon]

At this point I doubt the Indians have the financial flexibility to get Lohse/Bourn without moving Perez and/or ACab. And I don't think deferred money is going to help because the Indians don't stand to lose a lot of payroll (only expiring contracts are Myers/Reynolds and two relievers), but stand to gain a lot more in arbitration. I'd like to trade ACab just because I think his value won't ever be higher, but I don't think that's in the cards. What I'd really like to see is Ubaldo traded to clear budget and roster room for Lohse. I'd take even a c-grade minor leaguer for him if you can pick up Lohse with the savings.

It strikes me that picking up Ubaldo's option has been terrible for us, as it could end up being the thing that keeps us "out" on a better pitcher.

In former Indian news... Vinny Rottino is now playing in Japan for Orinx. Jerad Head was signed by the Nats to a minor league deal, and Thomas Neal joins Russ Canzler on the Yankees (minor league deal).

ed. at this juncture, the 'moving' of salary for the purpose of adding it back, as you've intimated, can only occur if the Indians would be able to back load a contract as Homer has suggested. The "doubt" is shared by everyone, including all who post here. The question that has to be asked: Would the signing of Kyle Lohse change or impact the Indians to the point of going from most assuredly out of contention to respectfully in the mix for contention for a playoff spot?.

From a realistic perspective, there would have to be a LOT of things that go right for the Indians to contend in 2013, inclusive of several position players and the bullpen mafia play at or above career levels. The addition of a MOR/FOR SP (*read: # 3 to #2 level) like Kyle Lohse would vastly increase the length of the rotation. The chances for playing meaningful games in October would rise considerably. The ownership would have to make the decision to deficit spend to achieve the end.

If the Indians really want to 'cash in' on the positive public relations spin the front office is getting in the wake of signing Nick Swisher and Mark Reynolds, etc., a Kyle Lohse signing NOW could provide the impetus to let the real fans in Cleveland know, they intend to contend.. Of course.. the Tigers will have something to say about that, but, the Indians had the Tiger's number last year.. no reason to believe the same can't happen again in 2013....

[GeronimoSon]

Ed:"...one of Marson/Gomes will be down there {C-bus} to start the year.... a defensive catcher..

With teams like the New York Yankees and Seattle Mariners in the market for a catcher/defensive stalwart, this could be the 'key' to a trade opportunity:

-The Yankees have the trio of Francisco Cervelli, Chris Stewart and Austin Romine as their catchers. Lou Marson would start over all three of those guys, is a superior defensive catcher and has a familiarity with CC Sabathia. Possible returns for Lou could include a deep pitching prospect like Jose Campos (who I would favor), a more established pitcher, but a higher risk in Manny Banuelos, outfielders Mason Williams or Tyler Austin and finally, shortstop/athlete such as Austin Aune, who could become one of the Yankee's top prospects in the next couple of seasons if left to develop.. Any one or more of these guys for Lou Marson would be an excellent return. Simple trades seem to work out best for the Indians. This could be one of them...

-Seattle's need is clearly based on the belief that Jesus Montero is not a ML level catcher. If you've seen him play, you know that Montero will never be a great catcher. He projects to being below average defensively. His feet are terrible and his instincts as a catcher appear to be non-existent. He may have been the fat kid in little league that became the catcher because he couldn't play anyplace else, but he could hit.. Whatever the reason, the Mariners need to move him from behind the plate, permanently. If there is a question about reducing his value by moving him from a premium defensive position, try defining his value as the worst defensive backstop in baseball.. The Mariners prospects are well known by this time. The only question remaining, would the Indians want to 'expand' the deal for Marson to include at least one of the SP prospects we've discussed at this site for many weeks..

[homerawayfromhome]

At this point I doubt the Indians have the financial flexibility to get Lohse/Bourn without moving Perez and/or ACab. And I don't think deferred money is going to help because the Indians don't stand to lose a lot of payroll (only expiring contracts are Myers/Reynolds and two relievers), but stand to gain a lot more in arbitration. I'd like to trade ACab just because I think his value won't ever be higher, but I don't think that's in the cards. What I'd really like to see is Ubaldo traded to clear budget and roster room for Lohse. I'd take even a c-grade minor leaguer for him if you can pick up Lohse with the savings.

It strikes me that picking up Ubaldo's option has been terrible for us, as it could end up being the thing that keeps us "out" on a better pitcher.

In former Indian news... Vinny Rottino is now playing in Japan for Orinx. Jerad Head was signed by the Nats to a minor league deal, and Thomas Neal joins Russ Canzler on the Yankees (minor league deal).

I've made mention of this several times, the San Diego Padres have reportedly expressed interest in Ubaldo Jimenez. That would seemingly be an answer to signing Kyle Lohse. Personally, I think the Tribe should try to land Lohse on a 2/3 yr deal. The Tribe could look to free some cash by dealing Jimenez or by waiting at a later date and swinging a deal for CPerez or ACab.

Here's an idea...

Ubaldo Jimenez and Cord Phelps / Juan Diaz to the Padres

For...

Joe Thatcher and one of: Jesus Guzman, Chris Denoforia, Matt Wisler and Edison Rincon.

[homerawayfromhome]

At this point I doubt the Indians have the financial flexibility to get Lohse/Bourn without moving Perez and/or ACab. And I don't think deferred money is going to help because the Indians don't stand to lose a lot of payroll (only expiring contracts are Myers/Reynolds and two relievers), but stand to gain a lot more in arbitration. I'd like to trade ACab just because I think his value won't ever be higher, but I don't think that's in the cards. What I'd really like to see is Ubaldo traded to clear budget and roster room for Lohse. I'd take even a c-grade minor leaguer for him if you can pick up Lohse with the savings.

It strikes me that picking up Ubaldo's option has been terrible for us, as it could end up being the thing that keeps us "out" on a better pitcher.

In former Indian news... Vinny Rottino is now playing in Japan for Orinx. Jerad Head was signed by the Nats to a minor league deal, and Thomas Neal joins Russ Canzler on the Yankees (minor league deal).

ed. at this juncture, the 'moving' of salary for the purpose of adding it back, as you've intimated, can only occur if the Indians would be able to back load a contract as Homer has suggested. The "doubt" is shared by everyone, including all who post here. The question that has to be asked: Would the signing of Kyle Lohse change or impact the Indians to the point of going from most assuredly out of contention to respectfully in the mix for contention for a playoff spot?.

From a realistic perspective, there would have to be a LOT of things that go right for the Indians to contend in 2013, inclusive of several position players and the bullpen mafia play at or above career levels. The addition of a MOR/FOR SP (*read: # 3 to #2 level) like Kyle Lohse would vastly increase the length of the rotation. The chances for playing meaningful games in October would rise considerably. The ownership would have to make the decision to deficit spend to achieve the end.

If the Indians really want to 'cash in' on the positive public relations spin the front office is getting in the wake of signing Nick Swisher and Mark Reynolds, etc., a Kyle Lohse signing NOW could provide the impetus to let the real fans in Cleveland know, they intend to contend.. Of course.. the Tigers will have something to say about that, but, the Indians had the Tiger's number last year.. no reason to believe the same can't happen again in 2013....

I think adding Kyle Lohse definitely puts the Tribe in contention for a wild card spot at worst. Trading off Jimenez in a deal like I proposed above could actually meet a few needs and relieve some salary. Here's the thought the Tribe moves Jimenez to the Padres w/ Phelps for LHRP Joe Thatcher and 1b / OF / DH Jesus Guzman. The Tribe would gain some financial freedom by moving Jimenez and gain a solid veteran LOOGY in Thatcher. Guzman would provide a nice RH bench bat.

[GeronimoSon]

I've made mention of this several times, the San Diego Padres have reportedly expressed interest in Ubaldo Jimenez. That would seemingly be an answer to signing Kyle Lohse. Personally, I think the Tribe should try to land Lohse on a 2/3 yr deal. The Tribe could look to free some cash by dealing Jimenez or by waiting at a later date and swinging a deal for CPerez or ACab.

Here's an idea...

Ubaldo Jimenez and Cord Phelps / Juan Diaz to the Padres

For...

Joe Thatcher and one of: Jesus Guzman, Chris Denoforia, Matt Wisler and Edison Rincon.

The source of the information regarding the alleged interest of the San Diego Padres in Ubaldo Jimenez came from Bill Centers of the San Diego Union-Tribune musing over the needs of the Padres for the coming 2013 season. Like the half truths and partial facts club members we find in the Cleveland media (hoynes/pluto/ocker, et al), Centers took the following quote from Josh Towers, the GM of the Padres:

Josh Byrnes has indicated that they're much likelier to go the trade route as they seek rotation help. "Clearly, trades make more sense for what we’re trying to do," Byrnes said. "The free agent market prices are higher than they should be. We’ve spent more time discussing trades than free agents."

...and "connected the dots". Subsequent to this early December Rotoworld posting, there has been NOTHING posted or otherwise discussed regarding a trade of Ubaldo to the Padres for anyone. This very sketchy rumor / whisper has died of natural causes.. i.e. the truth has been put out into the light of day & it says the Padres have ZERO interest in acquiring Ubaldo..

[homerawayfromhome]

I've made mention of this several times, the San Diego Padres have reportedly expressed interest in Ubaldo Jimenez. That would seemingly be an answer to signing Kyle Lohse. Personally, I think the Tribe should try to land Lohse on a 2/3 yr deal. The Tribe could look to free some cash by dealing Jimenez or by waiting at a later date and swinging a deal for CPerez or ACab.

Here's an idea...

Ubaldo Jimenez and Cord Phelps / Juan Diaz to the Padres

For...

Joe Thatcher and one of: Jesus Guzman, Chris Denoforia, Matt Wisler and Edison Rincon.

The source of the information regarding the alleged interest of the San Diego Padres in Ubaldo Jimenez came from Bill Centers of the San Diego Union-Tribune musing over the needs of the Padres for the coming 2013 season. Like the half truths and partial facts club members we find in the Cleveland media (hoynes/pluto/ocker, et al), Centers took the following quote from Josh Towers, the GM of the Padres:

Josh Byrnes has indicated that they're much likelier to go the trade route as they seek rotation help. "Clearly, trades make more sense for what we’re trying to do," Byrnes said. "The free agent market prices are higher than they should be. We’ve spent more time discussing trades than free agents."

...and "connected the dots". Subsequent to this early December Rotoworld posting, there has been NOTHING posted or otherwise discussed regarding a trade of Ubaldo to the Padres for anyone. This very sketchy rumor / whisper has died of natural causes.. i.e. the truth has been put out into the light of day & it says the Padres have ZERO interest in acquiring Ubaldo..

As for who does and doesn't have interest in Jimenez at this point we could only speculate. That being said I think the Tribe could look to sign Lohse and then free some cash later. I'm not so sure that its the cash holding up a Lohse signing, rather it seems the length if the contract is likely coming into play as well. It's hard to backload a deal for two yrs. making it seem more likely that a third yr would certainly be on the table. There are other ways around this, such as including a guaranteed sizable option buyout or deferring money over several seasons.

[GeronimoSon]

The speculation was started by the Padres beat writer... not that it doesn't hold any more sway than say a poster on a website dedicated to hot stove ideas and suggestions might..

Jesus Guzman.. would be a decent add.. sort of like Russ Canzler with a slightly better pedigree... Adding the Lefty arm for the pen could be worthwhile.. but, other than this being a salary dump, wouldn't the naysayers crow that the Indians didn't get much for the two best pitching prospects in the Indians system from a couple years ago? Sometimes (and this may be that time) you have to cut your losses.. That's what this trade is all about..

The savings would be enough to offset somewhere above a third of one year of Kyle Lohse's contract, but less than a half... If the return for trading Ubaldo is Kyle Lohse in a deficit spending situation, a lefty RP (Joe Thatcher or, as I would call him, Joe-Smith-Left) and Russ Canzler's slightly better twin.. that would be more than okay..

[homerawayfromhome]

The speculation was started by the Padres beat writer... not that it doesn't hold any more sway than say a poster on a website dedicated to hot stove ideas and suggestions might..

Jesus Guzman.. would be a decent add.. sort of like Russ Canzler with a slightly better pedigree... Adding the Lefty arm for the pen could be worthwhile.. but, other than this being a salary dump, wouldn't the naysayers crow that the Indians didn't get much for the two best pitching prospects in the Indians system from a couple years ago? Sometimes (and this may be that time) you have to cut your losses.. That's what this trade is all about..

The savings would be enough to offset somewhere above a third of one year of Kyle Lohse's contract, but less than a half... If the return for trading Ubaldo is Kyle Lohse in a deficit spending situation, a lefty RP (Joe Thatcher or, as I would call him, Joe-Smith-Left) and Russ Canzler's slightly better twin.. that would be more than okay..

I think Joe Thatcher (good comp. there) and Jesus Guzman (another solid comp.) would be a solid return for Jimenez...the idea being adding something useful back for well...Ubaldo. I think that's enough said on that account.

Paying Lohse would be best suited to be spread over three yrs, he reportedly wants four. But three yrs, maybe two yrs and a reasonable vesting option say 300IP for a third yr might get a deal done. Looking at the Soriano deal as a source of inspiration, I think it's reasonable the Tribe could be creative and land Lohse in a deal. Keeping their eyes on improving both short term and long term, while keeping some financial flexibility season to season the Tribe could and should be in on Lohse. Moving pieces like ACab or CPerez or even others such as Jimenez, Smith, Albers would give the Tribe a bit of financial flexibility. All of this / that could go down at a later date, say toward the end of ST. Lets say a teams closer goes down for the season, CPerez could become an option or ACab if (rather when) Furcal goes down again.

The Tribe could do something like...
2yrs w/ options for a 3rd and 4th yr option

2013 $7M
2014 $15M
2015 $14M ($3 M buyout) vesting option
2016 $13M ($2 M buyout) team option

The deal would essentially become something like...

2yrs / $26M with the inclusion of buyouts for '15 and '16.
3yrs / $38M with the inclusion of the buyout for '16.
4yrs / $49M

[GeronimoSon]

Homer.. FWIW.. you can keep posting these 3 year and 4 year contacts where the first year is half what the going market rate is for a FOR/MOR SP.. It's just not plausible.. The advent of a large buy out has some value, but, only as a deferred payment for a guy that thinks this is the last contract of his career. W/R to Lohse, this is clearly not the case.. Also, the Devil is his agent. He would rather hold the guy out than sign for less than market value..

[homerawayfromhome]

A few minor notes...

Kelly Johnson 2b / LF has signed a 1 yr deal with the Rays... Nice signing, have seen the price yet.

Chad Durbin RHRP signed with the Phillies for 1 yr $1.1M and $350K incentives.

[homerawayfromhome]

Homer.. FWIW.. you can keep posting these 3 year and 4 year contacts where the first year is half what the going market rate is for a FOR/MOR SP.. It's just not plausible.. The advent of a large buy out has some value, but, only as a deferred payment for a guy that thinks this is the last contract of his career. W/R to Lohse, this is clearly not the case.. Also, the Devil is his agent. He would rather hold the guy out than sign for less than market value..

You may very well be right he wouldn't sign a eal like that. You just never know though, maybe a third yr outlined in the post above gets it done. Someone will likely come in and pay him $10+ M up front. There was some speculation over the weekend the Brewers are waiting to jump in on him.

Overall, I think you hit the nail on the head bc it will likely require a deficit signing. I'm not convinced, Lohse won't sign a creative deal (although its probably, unlikely) but at this point I think the Tribe should look to sign Lohse. At the cost a third round pick and pool money is a much better price than they would have to pay next yr...potentially a first rd pk. That should come into play IMO. Who knows maybe the Tribe moves CPerez / ACab at some point before the season to offset a signing like Lohse. It shouldn't be off the table, IMO.

[GeronimoSon]

Homer.. FWIW.. you can keep posting these 3 year and 4 year contacts where the first year is half what the going market rate is for a FOR/MOR SP.. It's just not plausible.. The advent of a large buy out has some value, but, only as a deferred payment for a guy that thinks this is the last contract of his career. W/R to Lohse, this is clearly not the case.. Also, the Devil is his agent. He would rather hold the guy out than sign for less than market value..

You may very well be right he wouldn't sign a eal like that. You just never know though, maybe a third yr outlined in the post above gets it done. Someone will likely come in and pay him $10+ M up front. There was some speculation over the weekend the Brewers are waiting to jump in on him.

Overall, I think you hit the nail on the head bc it will likely require a deficit signing. I'm not convinced, Lohse won't sign a creative deal (although its probably, unlikely) but at this point I think the Tribe should look to sign Lohse. At the cost a third round pick and pool money is a much better price than they would have to pay next yr...potentially a first rd pk. That should come into play IMO. Who knows maybe the Tribe moves CPerez / ACab at some point before the season to offset a signing like Lohse. It shouldn't be off the table, IMO.

This is the first movement I've heard regarding Kyle Lohse being signed this offseason:

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/ ... ps-enough/

What enough is?.. IDK either..

[Hermie13]

Hideki Okajima is apparently looking to return to America to play in the bigs. Pitched well in Japan last year. Would be a nice low risk add IMO. Has familiarity with Francona from his Boston days plus Tribe could use a lefty in the pen. Minor league deal may do it...

[homerawayfromhome]

Hideki Okajima is apparently looking to return to America to play in the bigs. Pitched well in Japan last year. Would be a nice low risk add IMO. Has familiarity with Francona from his Boston days plus Tribe could use a lefty in the pen. Minor league deal may do it...

HardballTalk linked Okajima to the Oakland A's, who have depth in Sean Doolittle, Jerry Blevins and Jordan Norberto.

[GeronimoSon]

...Jack Zduriencik hinted over the weekend that the next week could bring a significant move, for the Seattle Mariners. It's no secret that the Mariners aren't finished with their off season, and while "significant move" makes people daydream about the likes of Giancarlo Stanton, what's more likely is that the Mariners are closing in on a starting pitcher, or a backup catcher....

While there appears to be some more movement from the PacNW.. what direction remains to be seen.. The M's have one catcher on their roster and some "guys" who will be there during February....

[homerawayfromhome]

Could the Mariners jump in on Kyle Lohse? Maybe it's Michael Bourn or potentially a trade they have in the works. Hard to really get a feel from that. The Mariners have a ton of depth in the OF and at 1b/DH. I'd like to see the Tribe jump in on Justin Smoak bc I think he could be better away from Safeco field and has several yrs of control remaining too. IF acq. Smoak would give the Tribe another SH and potentially a 1b/DH for the future.

I'm not sure if the Mariners have been linked to Rick Porcello but could he be an option for the Mariners? Maybe the Mariners offer something like one of: Tom Wilhemson / Carter Capps, Stephen Pryor, plus one of: James Paxton or Brandon Maurer. The Ms could throw in an extra OF like Casper Wells to get a deal done.

[GeronimoSon]

Could the Mariners jump in on Kyle Lohse? Maybe it's Michael Bourn or potentially a trade they have in the works. Hard to really get a feel from that. The Mariners have a ton of depth in the OF and at 1b/DH. I'd like to see the Tribe jump in on Justin Smoak bc I think he could be better away from Safeco field and has several yrs of control remaining too. IF acq. Smoak would give the Tribe another SH and potentially a 1b/DH for the future.

I'm not sure if the Mariners have been linked to Rick Porcello but could he be an option for the Mariners? Maybe the Mariners offer something like one of: Tom Wilhemson / Carter Capps, Stephen Pryor, plus one of: James Paxton or Brandon Maurer. The Ms could throw in an extra OF like Casper Wells to get a deal done.

The Mariners offering one highly regarded RP and one prospect SP.. seems like an over pay for just Porcello.. who knows.. but we do know that

-The Tigers need a SS and a closer...and have a veteran SP and several prospects..

-The Mariners need a back up catcher and a veteran SP and have OF'ers, 1B's DH's, RP's and several prospects

-The Indians need several prospects and have a SS, and a back up catcher.. hmm..

Maybe all three teams can duke it out?.

[homerawayfromhome]

I'm not convinced the Tribe is done dealing. Honestly, I think they will make at least one or two small deals during ST. They would still like to add a LHRP, maybe another SP and potentially another bat too. It's obvious they don't have the cash for all but could free some up in a deal.

I'm curious what they story is with Mike Aviles, probably nothing but I though they would have signed him by now. Or... Is $3M a bit expensive for a role player / super UTL guy? I don't know, it's probably nothing more than trying to get his price to come down a bit to keep a little flexibility.

As ST nears we could see the Tribe make a few more minor league signings. A few names we could see them try to land on minor league deals...Ryan Theriot*, Carlos Lee, Casey Kotchman, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Carlos Zambrano, Chris Young, and Manny Parra*. My personal prefernces = *

[homerawayfromhome]

The Mariners have reportedly signed Kelly Shoppach -C to fill their void behind the plate.

Another interesting note: the Yanks are reportedly trying to void ARod's contract...hmm, don't know why they'd want to do that.

[GeronimoSon]

The Mariners have reportedly signed Kelly Shoppach -C to fill their void behind the plate.

Another interesting note: the Yanks are reportedly trying to void ARod's contract...hmm, don't know why they'd want to do that.

that leaves:
-the M's with a need for a shortstop and a veteran starting pitcher..
-the Tigers still need a back of the pen guy..
-the Indians still need those prospects to fill the holes..

You may still be right about the Indians not being done dealing.. BTW when it comes to deals with the Mariners.. the simple ones have been devastatingly good...

[homerawayfromhome]

Fwiw, Daniel Murphy of the Mets requested $3.4 M from the Mets, the Mets countered with $2.55 M. Murphy and the Mets agreed on a 1 yr / $2.925 M deal. I mention Murphy bc the Tribe and Mike Aviles have shared a similar set of numbers in the arb process. Aviles submitted an arb number of $3.4 M, while the Tribe countered with $2.4 M. It seems like Daniel Murphy's contract would be a good meeting point for the Tribe and Aviles.

[daingean]

Fwiw, Daniel Murphy of the Mets requested $3.4 M from the Mets, the Mets countered with $2.55 M. Murphy and the Mets agreed on a 1 yr / $2.925 M deal. I mention Murphy bc the Tribe and Mike Aviles have shared a similar set of numbers in the arb process. Aviles submitted an arb number of $3.4 M, while the Tribe countered with $2.4 M. It seems like Daniel Murphy's contract would be a good meeting point for the Tribe and Aviles.

I think the Indians may be staying firm with their offer to Aviles thinking that their offer is fair, reasonable, and will eventually prevail. I'm sure Aviles has been offered above what their arby offer was but other projections of Aviles' worth are closer to the Indians offer than what Aviles wants. My guess is that Aviles may break the streak the Indians have in avoiding arby.

I could see the Indians moving CPerez because of their depth in the BP and his salary but I don't see them moving Asdrubal. I think the Indians believe they can compete for the AL Central and/or Wild Card spot this year and ACab's offensive worth is just too valuable right now. I think the Indians floated ACab and Choo this offseason and took the best offer then pulled ACab off the market.

[homerawayfromhome]

Mlbtraderumors.com is reporting that Joe Saunders has received a two year offer for $15 million from an unknown team. The twins have reportedly offered a one year deal to Saunders. My best guess is that the two-year offer is from a team like the Mariners or the Mets. Could the unknown team be the Indians trying to slip back into the market to obtain a left-hander for the rotation. I seriously doubt that it is but I would say that there's a 10% chance the Indians are or have at least considered it.

I've mentioned in other postings that I still think the Tribe could make another move or two. I don't expect these to be big trades although I wouldn't rule out the possibility of the Indians trading Chris Perez during spring training. The Indians could move some bullpen depth to clarify their bullpen situation.

The tribe could still make another move for a left-handed relief picture or another bench that. A few names I wouldn't mind seeing the tribe look into our Mike Carp, Casper Wells, Justin Smoak and Domonic Brown. Obviously three of these guys are from the mariners who have some excess to deal. Preferably one of Smoak or Brown. I'd think the Tribe could acq. Carp or Wells for a guy like Matt Albers.

[homerawayfromhome]

Fwiw, Daniel Murphy of the Mets requested $3.4 M from the Mets, the Mets countered with $2.55 M. Murphy and the Mets agreed on a 1 yr / $2.925 M deal. I mention Murphy bc the Tribe and Mike Aviles have shared a similar set of numbers in the arb process. Aviles submitted an arb number of $3.4 M, while the Tribe countered with $2.4 M. It seems like Daniel Murphy's contract would be a good meeting point for the Tribe and Aviles.

I think the Indians may be staying firm with their offer to Aviles thinking that their offer is fair, reasonable, and will eventually prevail. I'm sure Aviles has been offered above what their arby offer was but other projections of Aviles' worth are closer to the Indians offer than what Aviles wants. My guess is that Aviles may break the streak the Indians have in avoiding arby.

I could see the Indians moving CPerez because of their depth in the BP and his salary but I don't see them moving Asdrubal. I think the Indians believe they can compete for the AL Central and/or Wild Card spot this year and ACab's offensive worth is just too valuable right now. I think the Indians floated ACab and Choo this offseason and took the best offer then pulled ACab off the market.

Agreed, Chris Perez is the most likely larger piece to be dealt by the Tribe IF the Tribe makes a move. Also, the Tribe would have to get their price right now to move ACab. I don't think ACab is entirely off the mkt but at this point I don't see him getting dealt unless an injury occurs to someone's SS / 2b or even 3b (read...Rafael Furcal here). A team like the Dodgers could jump in to improve an INF spot, but at this point I think it's July before ACab is dealt.

[GoTribe028]

Looks like Travis Hafner is nearing a deal with the Yankees

@bradfo: Hearing #Yankees might be close to deal with Travis Hafner

[Rocky55]

Mlbtraderumors.com is reporting that Joe Saunders has received a two year offer for $15 million from an unknown team. The twins have reportedly offered a one year deal to Saunders. My best guess is that the two-year offer is from a team like the Mariners or the Mets. Could the unknown team be the Indians trying to slip back into the market to obtain a left-hander for the rotation. I seriously doubt that it is but I would say that there's a 10% chance the Indians are or have at least considered it.

I've mentioned in other postings that I still think the Tribe could make another move or two. I don't expect these to be big trades although I wouldn't rule out the possibility of the Indians trading Chris Perez during spring training. The Indians could move some bullpen depth to clarify their bullpen situation.

The tribe could still make another move for a left-handed relief picture or another bench that. A few names I wouldn't mind seeing the tribe look into our Mike Carp, Casper Wells, Justin Smoak and Domonic Brown. Obviously three of these guys are from the mariners who have some excess to deal. Preferably one of Smoak or Brown. I'd think the Tribe could acq. Carp or Wells for a guy like Matt Albers.

I was hoping to land Joe Saunders. Not a world beater but could be counted on for a League Average ERA+ & a WHIP around 1.300. Keeps the ball in the park too. That & lefthandedness would benefit the rotation.

Oh, Homer, Matt Albers called & asked that you quit trying to trade him.

[GoTribe028]

Oh, Homer, Matt Albers called & asked that you quit trying to trade him.

THANK YOU!!!

[Rocky55]

Oh, Homer, Matt Albers called & asked that you quit trying to trade him.

THANK YOU!!!

[Hermie13]

The tribe could still make another move for a left-handed relief picture or another bench that. A few names I wouldn't mind seeing the tribe look into our Mike Carp, Casper Wells, Justin Smoak and Domonic Brown. Obviously three of these guys are from the mariners who have some excess to deal. Preferably one of Smoak or Brown. I'd think the Tribe could acq. Carp or Wells for a guy like Matt Albers.

Not a huge fan of Smoak though if the deal was right I would do it (low level C prospect). I would prefer a LH hitting OFer than just a 1B.

Brown, Brandon Moss, Garrett Jones, Seth Smith, David DeJesus, or Will Venerable. A real go for it move would be Garza and DeJesus but adding that much salary seems near impossible even with moving CP though.

[homerawayfromhome]

Mlbtraderumors.com is reporting that Joe Saunders has received a two year offer for $15 million from an unknown team. The twins have reportedly offered a one year deal to Saunders. My best guess is that the two-year offer is from a team like the Mariners or the Mets. Could the unknown team be the Indians trying to slip back into the market to obtain a left-hander for the rotation. I seriously doubt that it is but I would say that there's a 10% chance the Indians are or have at least considered it.

I've mentioned in other postings that I still think the Tribe could make another move or two. I don't expect these to be big trades although I wouldn't rule out the possibility of the Indians trading Chris Perez during spring training. The Indians could move some bullpen depth to clarify their bullpen situation.

The tribe could still make another move for a left-handed relief picture or another bench that. A few names I wouldn't mind seeing the tribe look into our Mike Carp, Casper Wells, Justin Smoak and Domonic Brown. Obviously three of these guys are from the mariners who have some excess to deal. Preferably one of Smoak or Brown. I'd think the Tribe could acq. Carp or Wells for a guy like Matt Albers.

I was hoping to land Joe Saunders. Not a world beater but could be counted on for a League Average ERA+ & a WHIP around 1.300. Keeps the ball in the park too. That & lefthandedness would benefit the rotation.

Oh, Homer, Matt Albers called & asked that you quit trying to trade him.

First, I completely agree Saunders would be a nice add to the rotation. Personally, I was convinced they would go for one more piece but right now it seems unlikely.

Secondly, completely right I have mentioned trading Albers on too many occasions. I just don't get adding him to the pen and have expected he could be dealt leading up to the end of ST. I'll try not to mention him again, until he's traded.

Finally, I still expect the Tribe will make a few minor deals. Probably something to acq. the rights to Chris McGuiness. And possibly a minor move to acq. another LH option in the pen. That could come in the form of a minor league deal on a guy like Hideki Okajima or Manny Parra.

[homerawayfromhome]

The tribe could still make another move for a left-handed relief picture or another bench that. A few names I wouldn't mind seeing the tribe look into our Mike Carp, Casper Wells, Justin Smoak and Domonic Brown. Obviously three of these guys are from the mariners who have some excess to deal. Preferably one of Smoak or Brown. I'd think the Tribe could acq. Carp or Wells for a guy like Matt Albers.

Not a huge fan of Smoak though if the deal was right I would do it (low level C prospect). I would prefer a LH hitting OFer than just a 1B.

Brown, Brandon Moss, Garrett Jones, Seth Smith, David DeJesus, or Will Venerable. A real go for it move would be Garza and DeJesus but adding that much salary seems near impossible even with moving CP though.

I'd love to see the Tribe land Jones or Venable. They could "cost" a bit more than the Tribe would like though. Smoak / Brown could use a change of scenery with hopes they rebound...Both still have some upside and would be worth a flier IMO.

[GeronimoSon]

Recently, I've been getting up in the morning.. making the coffee (a two bean blend today consisting of Jamaican Blue Mountain and Nigerian Dark beans, mixed in equal portions and ground to a pulverized 35 micron powder..), let the stray cat in and fire up the computer..to find out.. How did the Navegantes Del Magallanes and Ezequiel Carrera do last night.. It's baseball drama at it's best.. and the tiny little tidbits can only be found at IBI..

Congrats to Magellan's SeaFarers for winning game 7!! Now.. ESPN3 will be showing the Caribbean World Series on Live Streaming in the coming week. It's baseball! Real Baseball !!

As the calendar is about to change to February.. There doesn't appear to be much going on in the way of the Hot Stove. The nonsense about Alex Rodriguez and the alleged distribution of PED's by some Miami laboratory boutique JUST DOESN'T INTEREST ME.

-What's that?. Travis Hafner may sign a contract to become the Yankees DH?. and nothing further for a while followed by there is nothing imminent.. btw.. a comment that seems apropos for this posting was posted by someone named WazBazBo who claimed: {the yankees} are being VERY proactive. If they're able to void A-Rod's contract, Hafner can take his place on the DL.

-Someone named Geoff Baker thinks the Mariners should trade Franklin Gutierrez to the Dodgers for Chris Capuano?. Does anyone with the Dodgers or Mariners know about this? Why would the Dodgers want another CF'er? Isn't Matt Kemp, Andre Ethier and Carl Crawford already a good enough OF to start the year? Why would Geoff Baker make this 'leap'? Does he know something about what the Mariners are doing, but not who they're doing it with?...

This is truly the deadest time of the year in Major League Baseball.. BUT!. a sign of life.. The Indians equipment truck(s) are departing for Goodyear Arizona today.. there is hope !..

[daingean]

This is truly the deadest time of the year in Major League Baseball.. BUT!. a sign of life.. The Indians equipment truck(s) are departing for Goodyear Arizona today.. there is hope !..

HS tryouts started Monday down here in Georgia.......my step-son is a 2 year letterman so no worries about making the team....but this means i've got about 2 weeks until real baseball starts down here.....I truly hate January for the lack of sports....

[GoTribe028]

Looks like Travis Hafner is nearing a deal with the Yankees

@bradfo: Hearing #Yankees might be close to deal with Travis Hafner

To update this little bit of news, from Jon Heyman today

@JonHeymanCBS: #yankees, travis hafner close to a deal. will be major league contract.

[GeronimoSon]

Looks like Travis Hafner is nearing a deal with the Yankees

@bradfo: Hearing #Yankees might be close to deal with Travis Hafner

To update this little bit of news, from Jon Heyman today

@JonHeymanCBS: #yankees, travis hafner close to a deal. will be major league contract.

and $ 1.1 MM will be his Yankee salary.. add the $ 2.75 MM from his buy out from Cleveland.. not bad

[homerawayfromhome]

I've heard the Tribe has signed Matt Capps to a minor league deal. Not sure if that's official yet. I like it if its true, gives them plenty of depth to work with.

[GeronimoSon]

I've heard the Tribe has signed Matt Capps to a minor league deal. Not sure if that's official yet. I like it if its true, gives them plenty of depth to work with.

Homer.. yes.. you are correct.. Capps brings his aching shoulder and his huge frame to the North Coast. He's just 30 years old, so, there may be more left in the tank. A very good depth signing for the Indians and their minor league teams..