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Postby JP_Frost » Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:43 pm

Some news outlets as well mlbtr have made their predictions on where the biggest free agents will go this offseason. I thought it would be fun to do the same thing here. You don't have to predict a player's team for every guy on the list, but I think it will be interesting to see everyone's take on certain players.

This is the top 50 as posted on mlbtr:


1. Pujols, Albert
2. Fielder, Prince
3. Reyes, Jose
4. Wilson, C.J.
5. Darvish, Yu
6. Jackson, Edwin
7. Rollins, Jimmy
8. Ramirez, Aramis
9. Beltran, Carlos
10. Papelbon, Jonathan
11. Cuddyer, Michael
12. Buehrle, Mark
13. Ortiz, David
14. Madson, Ryan
15. Kuroda, Hiroki
16. Pena, Carlos
17. Rodriguez, Francisco
18. Oswalt, Roy
19. Vazquez, Javier
20. Bell, Heath
21. Crisp, Coco
22. Iwakuma, Hisashi
23. Johnson, Kelly
24. Willingham, Josh
25. Maholm, Paul
26. Sizemore, Grady
27. Colon, Bartolo
28. Bedard, Erik
29. DeJesus, David
30. Kubel, Jason
31. Hernandez, Ramon
32. Francis, Jeff
33. Capuano, Chris
34. Wada, Tsuyoshi
35. Barmes, Clint
36. Kotchman, Casey
37. Garcia, Freddy
38. Hill, Aaron
39. Damon, Johnny
40. Harang, Aaron
41. Carroll, Jamey
42. Furcal, Rafael
43. Pierre, Juan
44. Francisco, Frank
45. Marquis, Jason
46. Pineiro, Joel
47. Broxton, Jonathan
48. Nathan, Joe
49. Wood, Kerry
50. Chen, Bruce

Just copy the list and fill in whatever you like. Be as bold as you want to be and if you want to include additional information -- contract length, salary, future performance, etc -- be my guest.

I'll start it off:

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1. Pujols, Albert - Cardinals
2. Fielder, Prince - Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
3. Reyes, Jose - Milwauke Brewers
4. Wilson, C.J. - Boston Red Sox
5. Darvish, Yu - New York Yankees
6. Jackson, Edwin - Miami Marlins
7. Rollins, Jimmy - Philadelphia Phillies
8. Ramirez, Aramis - Detroit Tigers
9. Beltran, Carlos - Philadelphia Phillies
10. Papelbon, Jonathan - Boston Red Sox
11. Cuddyer, Michael - Minnesota Twins
12. Buehrle, Mark - Chicago White Sox
13. Ortiz, David - Boston Red Sox
14. Madson, Ryan - Los Angeles Angels Of Anaheim
15. Kuroda, Hiroki - Los Angeles Dodgers
16. Pena, Carlos - Milwaukee Brewers
17. Rodriguez, Francisco - Cincinatti Reds
18. Oswalt, Roy - Detroit Tigers
19. Vazquez, Javier - retirment
20. Bell, Heath - Philadelphia Phillies
21. Crisp, Coco - San Francisco Giants
22. Iwakuma, Hisashi
23. Johnson, Kelly - Toronto Blue Jays
24. Willingham, Josh - Cleveland Indians (thinking 2-years $18M with a club option for a 3rd year at $10M)
25. Maholm, Paul
26. Sizemore, Grady - Texas Rangers
27. Colon, Bartolo
28. Bedard, Erik
29. DeJesus, David
30. Kubel, Jason
31. Hernandez, Ramon - Miami Marlins
32. Francis, Jeff
33. Capuano, Chris
34. Wada, Tsuyoshi
35. Barmes, Clint
36. Kotchman, Casey - Tampa Bay Rays
37. Garcia, Freddy
38. Hill, Aaron
39. Damon, Johnny
40. Harang, Aaron
41. Carroll, Jamey
42. Furcal, Rafael
43. Pierre, Juan
44. Francisco, Frank
45. Marquis, Jason
46. Pineiro, Joel
47. Broxton, Jonathan - Miami Marlins
48. Nathan, Joe - Minnesota Twins
49. Wood, Kerry
50. Chen, Bruce
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Magneticnorth451 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:21 pm

I had some wishful thinking with the Indians...

Also, hard to place a lot of the pitchers. And who really wants Johnny Damon, anyway?


1. Pujols, Albert: St. Louis Cardinals, 8 year deal worth 220 million.
2. Fielder, Prince: Texas Rangers, 6 year deal worth 125 million.
3. Reyes, Jose: Milwaukee Brewers, 6 year deal worth 130 million.
4. Wilson, C.J.: Washington Nationals, 4 year deal worth 70 million.
5. Darvish, Yu: Toronto Blue Jays: 5 year deal worth 80 million, plus 40 + million posting fee.
6. Jackson, Edwin: New York Yankees, 3 year deal worth 27 million.
7. Rollins, Jimmy: San Francisco Giants, 4 year deal worth 60 million (aging veteran? Sign him up!)
8. Ramirez, Aramis: Seattle Mariners: 3 year deal worth 48 million.
9. Beltran, Carlos: Philadelphia Phillies, 3 year deal worth 36 million.
10. Papelbon, Jonathan: New York Mets, 2 year deal worth 24 million.
11. Cuddyer, Michael: Boston Red Sox, 3 year deal worth 29 million.
12. Buehrle, Mark: Chicago White Sox, 3 year deal worth 22 million.
13. Ortiz, David: Toronto Blue Jays, 2 year deal worth 24 million.
14. Madson, Ryan: Philadelphia Phillies, 3 year deal worth 12 million.
15. Kuroda, Hiroki: LA Dodgers, 3 year deal worth 25 million.
16. Pena, Carlos: CLEVELAND INDIANS, 1 year deal worth 8 million.
17. Rodriguez, Francisco: Cinci Reds, 3 year deal worth 27 million.
18. Oswalt, Roy: Texas Rangers, 1 year deal worth 10 million.
19. Vazquez, Javier: Retirement, the rest of his life worth the remainder of his pension.
20. Bell, Heath: San Diego Padres, 2 year deal worth 19 million.
21. Crisp, Coco: San Francisco Giants, 2 year deal worth 14 million.
22. Iwakuma, Hisashi: Don't know enough about him.
23. Johnson, Kelly: Toronto Blue Jays, 2 year deal worth 13 million.
24. Willingham, Josh: CLEVELAND INDIANS, 2 year deal worth 16 million.
25. Maholm, Paul: Arizona Diamondbacks, 2 year deal worth 8 million.
26. Sizemore, Grady: Washington Nationals, 1 year deal worth 6 million.
27. Colon, Bartolo: Colorado Rockies, 1 year deal worth 4 million.
28. Bedard, Erik: Seattle Mariners, 2 year deal worth 15 million.
29. DeJesus, David: Chicago White Sox, 1 year deal worth 6.5 million.
30. Kubel, Jason: Minnesota Twins, 2 year deal worth 18 million.
31. Hernandez, Ramon: Anaheim Angels, 3 year deal worth 17 million.
32. Francis, Jeff: NRI for a team.
33. Capuano, Chris: New York Mets, 2 year deal worth 11 million.
34. Wada, Tsuyoshi: Don't know enough about him.
35. Barmes, Clint: Houston Astros, 2 year deal worth 12 million.
36. Kotchman, Casey: Tampa Bay Rays, 1 year deal worth 1.5 million.
37. Garcia, Freddy: Baltimore Orioles, 1 year deal worth 8 million.
38. Hill, Aaron: Arizona Diamondbacks, 3 year deal worth 12 million.
39. Damon, Johnny:
40. Harang, Aaron: Anaheim Angels, 1 year deal worth 6 million.
41. Carroll, Jamey: Colorado Rockies, 2 year deal worth 9 million.
42. Furcal, Rafael: St. Louis Cardinals, 1 year deal worth 8 million
43. Pierre, Juan: Nipon Ham Fighters, 1 year deal worth 500,000 Yen.
44. Francisco, Frank
45. Marquis, Jason:
46. Pineiro, Joel
47. Broxton, Jonathan:
48. Nathan, Joe: LA Dodgers, 1 year deal worth 7 million.
49. Wood, Kerry: Retirement, swimming in the money the Indians threw at him.
50. Chen, Bruce: Pittsburgh Pirates, 1 year deal worth 5 million.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby A.Zajac » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:33 pm

1. Pujols, Albert - St. Louis Cardinals
2. Fielder, Prince - Seattle Mariners
3. Reyes, Jose - San Francisco Giants
4. Wilson, C.J. - Washington Nationals
5. Darvish, Yu - New York Yankees
6. Jackson, Edwin - Miami Marlins
7. Rollins, Jimmy - Philadelphia Phillies
8. Ramirez, Aramis - Baltimore Orioles
9. Beltran, Carlos - Boston Red Sox
10. Papelbon, Jonathan - Boston Red Sox
11. Cuddyer, Michael - Minnesota Twins
12. Buehrle, Mark - Chicago White Sox
13. Ortiz, David - Boston Red Sox
14. Madson, Ryan - Philadelphia Phillies
15. Kuroda, Hiroki - Los Angeles Dodgers
16. Pena, Carlos - Cleveland Indians
17. Rodriguez, Francisco - Texas Rangers
18. Oswalt, Roy - Arizona Diamondbacks
19. Vazquez, Javier - Retirement. Could be fit for Marlins if no Jackson.
20. Bell, Heath - San Diego Padres
21. Crisp, Coco - San Francisco Giants
22. Iwakuma, Hisashi - Cincinnati Reds
23. Johnson, Kelly - Toronto Blue Jays
24. Willingham, Josh - Cleveland Indians
25. Maholm, Paul - Kansas City Royals
26. Sizemore, Grady - Texas Rangers
27. Colon, Bartolo - Colorado Rockies
28. Bedard, Erik - Seattle Mariners
29. DeJesus, David - Chicago Cubs
30. Kubel, Jason - Cincinnati Reds
31. Hernandez, Ramon - Miami Marlins
32. Francis, Jeff - Kansas City Royals
33. Capuano, Chris - New York Mets
34. Wada, Tsuyoshi - Baltimore Orioles
35. Barmes, Clint - Minnesota Twins
36. Kotchman, Casey - Tampa Bay Rays
37. Garcia, Freddy - New York Yankees
38. Hill, Aaron - Arizona Diamondbacks
39. Damon, Johnny - Baltimore Orioles
40. Harang, Aaron - Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
41. Carroll, Jamey - Detroit Tigers
42. Furcal, Rafael - St. Louis Cardinals
43. Pierre, Juan - Cincinnati Reds
44. Francisco, Frank - Seattle Mariners
45. Marquis, Jason - New York Mets
46. Pineiro, Joel - Philadelphia Phillies
47. Broxton, Jonathan - New York Mets
48. Nathan, Joe - Minnesota Twins
49. Wood, Kerry - Chicago Cubs (or retirement)
50. Chen, Bruce - Pittsburgh Pirates
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby daingean » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:54 pm

1. Pujols, Albert - St. Louis Cardinals
2. Fielder, Prince - Walgreens Natinals er Washington Nationals
3. Reyes, Jose - Boston Red Sox
4. Wilson, C.J. - Texas Rangers
5. Darvish, Yu - Chicago Cubs
6. Jackson, Edwin - Los Angeles Angels
7. Rollins, Jimmy - Philadelphia Phillies
8. Ramirez, Aramis - San Francisco Giants
9. Beltran, Carlos - Atlanta Braves
10. Papelbon, Jonathan - Boston Red Sox
11. Cuddyer, Michael - Cleveland Indians
12. Buehrle, Mark - Chicago White Sox
13. Ortiz, David - Baltimore Orioles
14. Madson, Ryan - Philadelphia Phillies
15. Kuroda, Hiroki - Los Angeles Dodgers
16. Pena, Carlos - Milwakee Brewers
17. Rodriguez, Francisco - Miami Marlins
18. Oswalt, Roy - New York Yankees
19. Vazquez, Javier - Miami Marlins
20. Bell, Heath - Seattle Mariners
21. Crisp, Coco - New York Mets
22. Iwakuma, Hisashi - Los Angeles Dodgers
23. Johnson, Kelly - Chicago Cubs
24. Willingham, Josh - Pittsburg Pirates
25. Maholm, Paul - Baltimore Orioles
26. Sizemore, Grady - Philadelphia Phillies
27. Colon, Bartolo - Texas Rangers
28. Bedard, Erik - Boston Red Sox
29. DeJesus, David - Colorado Rockies
30. Kubel, Jason - New York Mets
31. Hernandez, Ramon - Boston Red Sox
32. Francis, Jeff - Baltimore Orioles
33. Capuano, Chris - Chicago Cubs
34. Wada, Tsuyoshi - Los Angeles Dodgers
35. Barmes, Clint - New York Mets
36. Kotchman, Casey - Tampa Bay Rays
37. Garcia, Freddy - New York Yankees
38. Hill, Aaron - Arizona Diamondbacks
39. Damon, Johnny - Baltimore Orioles
40. Harang, Aaron - Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
41. Carroll, Jamey - Chicago Cubs
42. Furcal, Rafael - Atlanta Braves
43. Pierre, Juan - Cincinnati Reds
44. Francisco, Frank - Seattle Mariners
45. Marquis, Jason - New York Mets
46. Pineiro, Joel - Philadelphia Phillies
47. Broxton, Jonathan - St. Louis Cardinals
48. Nathan, Joe - Minnesota Twins
49. Wood, Kerry - Chicago Cubs
50. Chen, Bruce - Seattle Mariners
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby GeronimoSon » Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:54 pm

1. Pujols, Albert.............Cardinals
2. Fielder, Prince............Marlins
3. Reyes, Jose...............Brewers
4. Wilson, C.J...............Rangers
5. Darvish, Yu
6. Jackson, Edwin
7. Rollins, Jimmy...........SF Giants
8. Ramirez, Aramis........Tigers
9. Beltran, Carlos...........Red Sox
10. Papelbon, Jonathan....Phillies
11. Cuddyer, Michael......Twins
12. Buehrle, Mark..........Cardinals
13. Ortiz, David............Red Sox
14. Madson, Ryan..........Brewers
15. Kuroda, Hiroki.........Dodgers
16. Pena, Carlos
17. Rodriguez, Francisco
18. Oswalt, Roy............Sunny Acres Retirement Home
19. Vazquez, Javier.......Sunny Acres Retirement Home
20. Bell, Heath.............Padres
21. Crisp, Coco
22. Iwakuma, Hisashi
23. Johnson, Kelly
24. Willingham, Josh.......A's
25. Maholm, Paul
26. Sizemore, Grady......(hoping Indians)
27. Colon, Bartolo
28. Bedard, Erik
29. DeJesus, David
30. Kubel, Jason
31. Hernandez, Ramon
32. Francis, Jeff
33. Capuano, Chris.........Mets
34. Wada, Tsuyoshi
35. Barmes, Clint
36. Kotchman, Casey
37. Garcia, Freddy.........Yankees
38. Hill, Aaron
39. Damon, Johnny
40. Harang, Aaron
41. Carroll, Jamey
42. Furcal, Rafael
43. Pierre, Juan
44. Francisco, Frank
45. Marquis, Jason
46. Pineiro, Joel
47. Broxton, Jonathan....Red Sox
48. Nathan, Joe...........Indians
49. Wood, Kerry
50. Chen, Bruce...........Royals

The signing of Joe Nathan represents Chris Antonetti's understanding of what it takes to win in the AL.. a good overall team, not great.. good overall starting pitching, not great.. and a LIGHTS OUT BULLPEN.. We shall see..
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby homerawayfromhome » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:12 pm

This is the top 50 as posted on mlbtr:


1. Pujols, Albert...St. Louis Cards
2. Fielder, Prince...Chicago Cubs
3. Reyes, Jose...Philadelphia Phillies
4. Wilson, C.J....Texas Rangers
5. Darvish, Yu...New York Yankees
6. Jackson, Edwin...Miami Marlins
7. Rollins, Jimmy...New York Mets
8. Ramirez, Aramis...LA Angels
9. Beltran, Carlos...Boston Red Sox
10. Papelbon, Jonathan...Boston Red Sox
11. Cuddyer, Michael...Minnesota Twins
12. Buehrle, Mark...CWS
13. Ortiz, David...Toronto Blue Jays
14. Madson, Ryan...Philadelphia Phillies
15. Kuroda, Hiroki...LA Dodgers
16. Pena, Carlos...Milwaukee Brewers
17. Rodriguez, Francisco...Miami Marlins
18. Oswalt, Roy...Philadelphia Phillies
19. Vazquez, Javier...retirement
20. Bell, Heath...SD Padres
21. Crisp, Coco...SF Giants
22. Iwakuma, Hisashi...Boston Red Sox
23. Johnson, Kelly...Toronto Blue Jays
24. Willingham, Josh...CLEVELAND INDIANS
25. Maholm, Paul
26. Sizemore, Grady...Seattle M's
27. Colon, Bartolo...NY Yanks
28. Bedard, Erik
29. DeJesus, David
30. Kubel, Jason...CLEVELAND INDIANS
31. Hernandez, Ramon...Miami Marlins
32. Francis, Jeff
33. Capuano, Chris...NY Mets
34. Wada, Tsuyoshi
35. Barmes, Clint...Houston Astros
36. Kotchman, Casey...TB Rays
37. Garcia, Freddy...NY Yanks
38. Hill, Aaron
39. Damon, Johnny
40. Harang, Aaron
41. Carroll, Jamey
42. Furcal, Rafael...St. Louis Cards
43. Pierre, Juan
44. Francisco, Frank...Texas Rangers
45. Marquis, Jason...Washington Nats
46. Pineiro, Joel...Washington Nats
47. Broxton, Jonathan
48. Nathan, Joe
49. Wood, Kerry
50. Chen, Bruce...KC Royals
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby A.Zajac » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:36 pm

homerawayfromhome wrote:This is the top 50 as posted on mlbtr:


1. Pujols, Albert...St. Louis Cards
2. Fielder, Prince...Chicago Cubs
3. Reyes, Jose...Philadelphia Phillies
4. Wilson, C.J....Texas Rangers
5. Darvish, Yu...New York Yankees
6. Jackson, Edwin...Miami Marlins
7. Rollins, Jimmy...New York Mets
8. Ramirez, Aramis...LA Angels
9. Beltran, Carlos...Boston Red Sox
10. Papelbon, Jonathan...Boston Red Sox
11. Cuddyer, Michael...Minnesota Twins
12. Buehrle, Mark...CWS
13. Ortiz, David...Toronto Blue Jays
14. Madson, Ryan...Philadelphia Phillies
15. Kuroda, Hiroki...LA Dodgers
16. Pena, Carlos...Milwaukee Brewers
17. Rodriguez, Francisco...Miami Marlins
18. Oswalt, Roy...Philadelphia Phillies
19. Vazquez, Javier...retirement
20. Bell, Heath...SD Padres
21. Crisp, Coco...SF Giants
22. Iwakuma, Hisashi...Boston Red Sox
23. Johnson, Kelly...Toronto Blue Jays
24. Willingham, Josh...CLEVELAND INDIANS
25. Maholm, Paul
26. Sizemore, Grady...Seattle M's
27. Colon, Bartolo...NY Yanks
28. Bedard, Erik
29. DeJesus, David
30. Kubel, Jason...CLEVELAND INDIANS
31. Hernandez, Ramon...Miami Marlins
32. Francis, Jeff
33. Capuano, Chris...NY Mets
34. Wada, Tsuyoshi
35. Barmes, Clint...Houston Astros
36. Kotchman, Casey...TB Rays
37. Garcia, Freddy...NY Yanks
38. Hill, Aaron
39. Damon, Johnny
40. Harang, Aaron
41. Carroll, Jamey
42. Furcal, Rafael...St. Louis Cards
43. Pierre, Juan
44. Francisco, Frank...Texas Rangers
45. Marquis, Jason...Washington Nats
46. Pineiro, Joel...Washington Nats
47. Broxton, Jonathan
48. Nathan, Joe
49. Wood, Kerry
50. Chen, Bruce...KC Royals


Why exactly would the Indians sign 2 OF and no 1B? Just curious..
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Hermie13 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:04 pm

A.Zajac wrote:
homerawayfromhome wrote:This is the top 50 as posted on mlbtr:


1. Pujols, Albert...St. Louis Cards
2. Fielder, Prince...Chicago Cubs
3. Reyes, Jose...Philadelphia Phillies
4. Wilson, C.J....Texas Rangers
5. Darvish, Yu...New York Yankees
6. Jackson, Edwin...Miami Marlins
7. Rollins, Jimmy...New York Mets
8. Ramirez, Aramis...LA Angels
9. Beltran, Carlos...Boston Red Sox
10. Papelbon, Jonathan...Boston Red Sox
11. Cuddyer, Michael...Minnesota Twins
12. Buehrle, Mark...CWS
13. Ortiz, David...Toronto Blue Jays
14. Madson, Ryan...Philadelphia Phillies
15. Kuroda, Hiroki...LA Dodgers
16. Pena, Carlos...Milwaukee Brewers
17. Rodriguez, Francisco...Miami Marlins
18. Oswalt, Roy...Philadelphia Phillies
19. Vazquez, Javier...retirement
20. Bell, Heath...SD Padres
21. Crisp, Coco...SF Giants
22. Iwakuma, Hisashi...Boston Red Sox
23. Johnson, Kelly...Toronto Blue Jays
24. Willingham, Josh...CLEVELAND INDIANS
25. Maholm, Paul
26. Sizemore, Grady...Seattle M's
27. Colon, Bartolo...NY Yanks
28. Bedard, Erik
29. DeJesus, David
30. Kubel, Jason...CLEVELAND INDIANS
31. Hernandez, Ramon...Miami Marlins
32. Francis, Jeff
33. Capuano, Chris...NY Mets
34. Wada, Tsuyoshi
35. Barmes, Clint...Houston Astros
36. Kotchman, Casey...TB Rays
37. Garcia, Freddy...NY Yanks
38. Hill, Aaron
39. Damon, Johnny
40. Harang, Aaron
41. Carroll, Jamey
42. Furcal, Rafael...St. Louis Cards
43. Pierre, Juan
44. Francisco, Frank...Texas Rangers
45. Marquis, Jason...Washington Nats
46. Pineiro, Joel...Washington Nats
47. Broxton, Jonathan
48. Nathan, Joe
49. Wood, Kerry
50. Chen, Bruce...KC Royals


Why exactly would the Indians sign 2 OF and no 1B? Just curious..


Could play Willingham at 1B technically. But agree, don't see him and Kubel.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby homerawayfromhome » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:57 am

Play Willingham at 1b and Kubel in LF primarily. Thought about adding a pitcher too, like Francis, Maholm, Chen , Bedard.
I seriously doubt it happens (JW / JK) but why not hope for it??? Honestly I think the Tribe will add at least 1 more by trade.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Prosecutor » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:26 am

Willingham seems like a logical choice. For the four years from 2007-2010 he was remarkably consistent, with a BA between .260-.268 and an OPS from .827-.863. Last year it looked like he started swinging for the fences as his BA, OPS, and OBP were all lower than any of the previous four years while his K's were higher. But he nearly doubled his 2010 HR total from 16 to 29. Maybe he figured it was a salary drive year and GM's dig the long ball.

He hits right-handed and plays left field, so Brantley would get bumped to center, which is not where the Indians really want to play him. However, as a .280 hitter with little pop, I'm not sure his bat plays in left field. He runs well so maybe his CF defense will improve with experience.

Over the last three years Willy had an OPS of .882 against lefties, which is exactly what we need - a right-handed MOL power bat that mashes lefties. Last year he hit .313 with RISP, so he was a much better hitter with ducks on the pond.

I initially wasn't interested in Willy because he hit only .208 against lefties last year, but when I checked his three-year totals, it evened out. He hits lefties slightly better than right-handers.

If we can't get Upton, this guy would be a good Plan B. Plus we wouldn't have to give up any players to get him, unlike Upton, so maybe he's Plan A. Willingham seems like a similar player to Thomas Neal, only he's 32 and a mature player whose productivity is very predictable. He doesn't have good or bad years - they're all about the same.

The question is whether he's worth $9 million a year, assuming that's what it would take to sign him. I'd certainly rather give $9 million to JW than to Grady.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Prosecutor » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:36 am

Just to add to the prior post, I took a look at Thomas Neal's numbers at AAA Fresno this year. In 220 ABs his OPS was only .760. The team average was .778, and it would have been higher except that it's a National League farm team so pitchers bat. Neal's OPS ranked 6th out of 7 players on the Fresno team that had over 200 at-bats. He's not exactly pounding on the major league door.

He's 24-years-old, so I'm not too high on him as a prospect, especially since all it took to get him was Orlando Cabrera. This guy isn't going to be a consideration if the Indians are thinking about making a run at Willingham.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby JP_Frost » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:41 am

Prosecutor wrote:Willingham seems like a logical choice. For the four years from 2007-2010 he was remarkably consistent, with a BA between .260-.268 and an OPS from .827-.863. Last year it looked like he started swinging for the fences as his BA, OPS, and OBP were all lower than any of the previous four years while his K's were higher. But he nearly doubled his 2010 HR total from 16 to 29. Maybe he figured it was a salary drive year and GM's dig the long ball.

He hits right-handed and plays left field, so Brantley would get bumped to center, which is not where the Indians really want to play him. However, as a .280 hitter with little pop, I'm not sure his bat plays in left field. He runs well so maybe his CF defense will improve with experience.

Over the last three years Willy had an OPS of .882 against lefties, which is exactly what we need - a right-handed MOL power bat that mashes lefties. Last year he hit .313 with RISP, so he was a much better hitter with ducks on the pond.

I initially wasn't interested in Willy because he hit only .208 against lefties last year, but when I checked his three-year totals, it evened out. He hits lefties slightly better than right-handers.

If we can't get Upton, this guy would be a good Plan B. Plus we wouldn't have to give up any players to get him, unlike Upton, so maybe he's Plan A. Willingham seems like a similar player to Thomas Neal, only he's 32 and a mature player whose productivity is very predictable. He doesn't have good or bad years - they're all about the same.

The question is whether he's worth $9 million a year, assuming that's what it would take to sign him. I'd certainly rather give $9 million to JW than to Grady.


My biggest gripe with Willingham is his defense. If he were to play LF and Brantley moves to center, our outfield defense would be subpar to put it mildly. At this point in his career, Willingham is a DH. I guess he could play 1st base if it weren't for the fact that he played there for exactly 4 innings in his entire career (the last time he had on a 1st baseman's glove was in 2009 ... for 1 inning). Personally I'd rather see the Indians go after someone else, but I do think they will make a serious run for Willingham and I have a feeling they'll land him with a 3-year deal worth $25-30M (2 years guaranteed).

Upton still seems like the best fit imo as he solves our CF issues and with him, Brantley and Choo manning the OF, we'd have a good defensive OF (even though they won't get too much work considering our GB staff).
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Hermie13 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:07 pm

Prosecutor wrote:Just to add to the prior post, I took a look at Thomas Neal's numbers at AAA Fresno this year. In 220 ABs his OPS was only .760. The team average was .778, and it would have been higher except that it's a National League farm team so pitchers bat. Neal's OPS ranked 6th out of 7 players on the Fresno team that had over 200 at-bats. He's not exactly pounding on the major league door.

He's 24-years-old, so I'm not too high on him as a prospect, especially since all it took to get him was Orlando Cabrera. This guy isn't going to be a consideration if the Indians are thinking about making a run at Willingham.


I agree, Neal is likely not a consideration to start the year. However, think it's kind of pointless to look at what we gave up to get him. I mean, all we gave up for Scott Barnes was Ryan Garko, all we gave up for Cabrera was Eduardo Perez, all we gave up for Choo was Broussard, etc.

Neal was hurt too. Now, I'm not sold on him as a 'top' prospect, but kid has some skills. If he can hit lefties and play a solid LF, he'd got a future in Cleveland and could surprise.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby GeronimoSon » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:24 pm

Prosecutor wrote:Just to add to the prior post, I took a look at Thomas Neal's numbers at AAA Fresno this year. In 220 ABs his OPS was only .760. The team average was .778, and it would have been higher except that it's a National League farm team so pitchers bat. Neal's OPS ranked 6th out of 7 players on the Fresno team that had over 200 at-bats. He's not exactly pounding on the major league door.

He's 24-years-old, so I'm not too high on him as a prospect, especially since all it took to get him was Orlando Cabrera. This guy isn't going to be a consideration if the Indians are thinking about making a run at Willingham.


When a player goes from being a highly thought of prospect (# 2 in the SF Giants system; 2011 SF Dugout Top 50 Prospect List), but then sort of falls off the map, dig deeper..

The Fresno Grizzlies have placed Thomas Neal on the seven day DL. His shoulder is the cause for the trip to the DL and it comes at a bad time. The Grizzlies outfielder had started the season strong, going 6 for 13 in his last four games. Neal was also dominating against left-handed pitchers, batting .538 to begin the year.

Neal had previously spent a week on the disabled list in mid-April after taking a pitch off of the foot.


Another source had the following statements regarding trading away Thomas Neal for Orlando Cabrera:

...Part of my irritation is that I feel like the Giants are trading away Thomas Neal when his trade value is at a relative low. After three fine minor league seasons in a row (at least, if you take park factors into consideration), they’re sending him away in a year in which he’s been battling injuries.

Despite the injuries this year, Neal is still hitting .295 at AAA, and he doesn’t turn 24 until mid-August. He’s going to be a major league player, at least as good as Freddie Lewis and possibly better..


In other words, Thomas Neal has had a foot injury, a shoulder injury and a hand injury all contributing to a rather poor 2011 season.. If he can get and stay healthy, then, imho (and not being the "lone ranger"), Neal can be a breakout threat to start the season in Columbus in 2012 and be promoted to the Indians shortly thereafter. He has the potential to be a very exciting player. That's about the MOST the Indians could have expected when they trade OCabby to the Giants...
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Hermie13 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:26 pm

JP_Frost wrote:My biggest gripe with Willingham is his defense. If he were to play LF and Brantley moves to center, our outfield defense would be subpar to put it mildly. At this point in his career, Willingham is a DH. I guess he could play 1st base if it weren't for the fact that he played there for exactly 4 innings in his entire career (the last time he had on a 1st baseman's glove was in 2009 ... for 1 inning). Personally I'd rather see the Indians go after someone else, but I do think they will make a serious run for Willingham and I have a feeling they'll land him with a 3-year deal worth $25-30M (2 years guaranteed).

Upton still seems like the best fit imo as he solves our CF issues and with him, Brantley and Choo manning the OF, we'd have a good defensive OF (even though they won't get too much work considering our GB staff).


I agree with you on Willingham's defense and moving Brantley to CF being a negative. Would definitely prefer to add a guy like Upton....however, as you mentioned in your last comment, with the extreme groundball staff, I'm not as worried about the OF defense (though being subpar at 2 spots is a concern).

With the staff we have...almost should just start Donald in "LF" but play him behind 2B, and go with 5 infielders and 2 outfielders (kidding)
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Prosecutor » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:57 am

Well, if Neal is going to be a legitimate ML left fielder, we could sign Willingham to play in left this year while Neal gets finished off at Columbus, then move Willy to DH (replacing Pronk) in 2013 when Neal takes over as the regular left fielder.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby homerawayfromhome » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:02 am

Part of my thinking was Willingham could play LF, 1B, DH.

Kubel can play RF, LF, 1B, DH and by signing Kubel for example to 2 yrs w/ an option the TRIBE would be protected if Choo were to depart or possibly become trade bait if he wont resign (which I doubt he does). Just trying to think creatively and ahead.

Personally I dont see Neal as an everyday player maybe down the road but not yet.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby indianinkslinger » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:35 pm

homerawayfromhome wrote:Part of my thinking was Willingham could play LF, 1B, DH.

Kubel can play RF, LF, 1B, DH and by signing Kubel for example to 2 yrs w/ an option the TRIBE would be protected if Choo were to depart or possibly become trade bait if he wont resign (which I doubt he does). Just trying to think creatively and ahead.

Personally I dont see Neal as an everyday player maybe down the road but not yet.

Hi homer, I think you are probably right about Neal but we have not seen him healthy yet. The thing about Willingham and Kubel is that the Indians would have to throw defense to the winds. Regardless of the measure, both are really bad. And you give up a 2nd rounder for Willingham and Kubel does not hit LHP particularly well. If you think that defense at OF/1B is not important and that hitting is the issue, wouldn't you get more bang for the buck with Doumit? If the Indians can handle his defensive issues and injuries, they have a backup catcher as well with a pretty solid bat from both sides for a lot less money. Pretty sure that he could be signed for $7M for 2 years with an option and no player cost. Granted, he may be even worse in the OF but not at 1B and he is younger than Willingham. Less of a splash but money could be spent elsewhere. :pleasantry:
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby homerawayfromhome » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:20 pm

I actually mentioned Ryan Doumit before and took a tongue lashing for the suggestion (another post).I believe he's a real possibility especially if Marson were part of a Pkg for Upton or another OF. Doumit has publicly said he'd play OF, 1b, C. I think he could be a decent fit.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby ACrank » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:38 pm

Personally i would agree on Doumit. Except if someone looks at him as a catcher who can play other positions, and not someone who can play catcher as well as other positions, then his value goes up beyond what the Indians would want to pay. And the rumors are that the Twins are looking at him as a back up.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby indianinkslinger » Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:10 am

homerawayfromhome wrote:I actually mentioned Ryan Doumit before and took a tongue lashing for the suggestion (another post).I believe he's a real possibility especially if Marson were part of a Pkg for Upton or another OF. Doumit has publicly said he'd play OF, 1b, C. I think he could be a decent fit.

It wasn't me who gave you any tongue lashing for Doumit. I don't know if you had the original post that I admired but I have thought if the Indians can live with this lack of defense and another injury prone body, Doumit seens like a cost effective answer to their need for a solid bat, particularly against LHP. :pleasantry:
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby JP_Frost » Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:01 am

Doumit has a career .717 OPS against lefties ...
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby indianinkslinger » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:56 am

JP_Frost wrote:Doumit has a career .717 OPS against lefties ...

Thanks JP. My point exactly. How many Indians have an OPS that high against LHP? Not wasting time looking it up but I suspect there are not many with any kind of sample size. And he doesn't require platooning. :good:
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby ACrank » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:00 am

Acta has mentioned having a DH who can play defensively. If this were next year and Doumit were available - I could see him replacing Hafner - with a platoon between catcher/dh developing between he and Santana.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Hermie13 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:36 am

ACrank wrote:Acta has mentioned having a DH who can play defensively. If this were next year and Doumit were available - I could see him replacing Hafner - with a platoon between catcher/dh developing between he and Santana.


Hafner will only play 100 games (if we're lucky) though, so a guy like Doumit is still a fit IMO for the Tribe this year. He doesn't have to start everyday either (not that good), but gives you a nice bench bat that can fill in at several positions, including catcher.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby ACrank » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:15 pm

And i wouldn't disagree.

But the Indians would be paying him as a platoon dh, and utility guy.

If someone wants him as a backup catcher - they will offer him more then the Indians will.

Meaning either the Indians overpay or Doumit signs with another team.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Hermie13 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:07 pm

ACrank wrote:And i wouldn't disagree.

But the Indians would be paying him as a platoon dh, and utility guy.

If someone wants him as a backup catcher - they will offer him more then the Indians will.

Meaning either the Indians overpay or Doumit signs with another team.


hmm, possible I guess, but I think Doumit knows that he can't catch much (or he gets hurt). Plus, who says he wouldn't catch some in Cleveland? He'd sign to be a starter here (at least based off what we currently have he'd start)...so don't think we'd have to overpay to get him here, versus another team wanting him as a backup catcher.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Magneticnorth451 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:37 pm

I was dead wrong about Madson's value. Supposedly about to get 4yr/44MIL from the Phils.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby jellis » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:54 pm

Magneticnorth451 wrote:I was dead wrong about Madson's value. Supposedly about to get 4yr/44MIL from the Phils.


I loved it, think about Perez value going up, and the fact he needs to be traded soon
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Pork Chop Pough » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:24 pm

Boston is rumored to be the most likely landing place for Carlos Beltran. The thinking is that he would split time between DH/RF, with Josh Reddick (and/or Ryan Kalish) breaking in with the rest of the RF at-bats. That scenario would remove Boston as a possibility for Grady Sizemore.
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Postby indianinkslinger » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:56 pm

jellis wrote:
Magneticnorth451 wrote:I was dead wrong about Madson's value. Supposedly about to get 4yr/44MIL from the Phils.


I loved it, think about Perez value going up, and the fact he needs to be traded soon

I don't have a real problem with both Perez's being trade bait but I am not sure who replaces Pestano as the RH setup. That role may go to Putnam in the future but now does not seem like a good time for that much pressure on a rookie. Maybe the answer is Joe Smith and I just don't see it. This year's starters should give us a lot of inningsif all goes according to plan and this might not be a big deal but Isee a lot of talented RPS but not much experience. :pleasantry:
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby GeronimoSon » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:20 am

indianinkslinger wrote:
jellis wrote:
Magneticnorth451 wrote:I was dead wrong about Madson's value. Supposedly about to get 4yr/44MIL from the Phils.


I loved it, think about Perez value going up, and the fact he needs to be traded soon

I don't have a real problem with both Perez's being trade bait but I am not sure who replaces Pestano as the RH setup. That role may go to Putnam in the future but now does not seem like a good time for that much pressure on a rookie. Maybe the answer is Joe Smith and I just don't see it. This year's starters should give us a lot of inningsif all goes according to plan and this might not be a big deal but Isee a lot of talented RPS but not much experience. :pleasantry:


Putnam would be a decent choice as his cuppa coffee this past season had to have helped his development or preparation of what's to be expected at the ML level.. Perhaps Derek Lowe if he stubs his toe as a starter (a good mention in the recently posted IPI article).. Then there are both CC Lee and Bryce Stowell, both strike out artists who have shown the ability to get that much needed strikeout in pressure situations, close and late. Cory Burns also fits into this profile... Bull back ups are plentiful in the Indians system, just not very experienced...
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby GeronimoSon » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:38 am

In the Bleacher Report article today, the destination of Grady Sizemore was revealed: back to the Cleveland Indians. The story basically stated that Grady would be looked at as damaged goods by every other organization and be treated (financially) like a red headed step child.. BUT in Cleveland, he'd be welcomed back as a returning hero.. Gotta love the drama.. Also, the same article had the Indians acquiring Logan Morrison from the Marlins (only if an overwhelming offer is forthcoming from CA).. This was due primarily to Chris Antonetti being more likely to make bold moves.. Yeah, it's a lame reason, but any reason is better than none.

Pitchers and catchers report to spring training in Goodyear, Arizona in 100 days.. it could get very interesting..
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Postby Hermie13 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:17 pm

GeronimoSon wrote:In the Bleacher Report article today, the destination of Grady Sizemore was revealed: back to the Cleveland Indians. The story basically stated that Grady would be looked at as damaged goods by every other organization and be treated (financially) like a red headed step child.. BUT in Cleveland, he'd be welcomed back as a returning hero.. Gotta love the drama.. Also, the same article had the Indians acquiring Logan Morrison from the Marlins (only if an overwhelming offer is forthcoming from CA).. This was due primarily to Chris Antonetti being more likely to make bold moves.. Yeah, it's a lame reason, but any reason is better than none.

Pitchers and catchers report to spring training in Goodyear, Arizona in 100 days.. it could get very interesting..


Yeah...not sure I see that with Grady. Personally think the opposite will be true. Other teams that haven't had to deal with his injuries will overvalue him based off his past performances and give him some big money thinking they can keep him healthy. A team like the Phillies makes a lot of sense depending what they do for LF. Grady/Mayberry could make a nice little platoon out there.

If the Giants lose Beltran they could be forced to move Cabrera to a corner and overpay for a guy like Grady too (though Grady in that CF isn't the best idea IMO). Never rule out the Yanks either. Rangers would be an interesting fit too...Grady could play some LF/CF giving them some insurance for the oft injured Hamilton. Move Napoli to catcher full-time, Young to 1B, and all of sudden DH is open too for some ABs. They could have money, and would be a good park to get Grady's bat going even more.

As much as I'd like to see Grady back on incentive laden deal for not a lot of guaranteed money.....just don't see it.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Hermie13 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:19 pm

Pork Chop Pough wrote:Boston is rumored to be the most likely landing place for Carlos Beltran. The thinking is that he would split time between DH/RF, with Josh Reddick (and/or Ryan Kalish) breaking in with the rest of the RF at-bats. That scenario would remove Boston as a possibility for Grady Sizemore.


Or could make a guy like Reddick and/or Kalish avaialbe allowing them to still make a play for Grady....though agree, highly doubtful they'd add both Beltran/Grady....unless they are just trying to corner the market on microfracture surgery guys...then go for the trifecta with Alomar as manager.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby TonyIBI » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:00 am

GeronimoSon wrote:In the Bleacher Report article today, the destination of Grady Sizemore was revealed: back to the Cleveland Indians. The story basically stated that Grady would be looked at as damaged goods by every other organization and be treated (financially) like a red headed step child.. BUT in Cleveland, he'd be welcomed back as a returning hero.. Gotta love the drama.. Also, the same article had the Indians acquiring Logan Morrison from the Marlins (only if an overwhelming offer is forthcoming from CA).. This was due primarily to Chris Antonetti being more likely to make bold moves.. Yeah, it's a lame reason, but any reason is better than none.

Pitchers and catchers report to spring training in Goodyear, Arizona in 100 days.. it could get very interesting..


I'm not reading the market that way though. From what I am hearing, teams are very intrigued by Sizemore's past as an upper tier player who is still 29 years old and may have several good years left in him if he can get healthy. There is a big IF there with the health, but teams appear willing to gamble on it. I am starting to believe he may get a base deal close to his $9M option with loads of incentives. He may not get the $9M, but he won't sign for the $3-4 million fans were hoping the Indians would resign him at. He'll get much more than that.
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Postby A.Zajac » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:57 pm

Papelbon has agreed to terms with the Phillies.. $50m/4 yrs
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Jamey Carroll has agreed to terms with the Twins.. $7m/2 yrs.
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Postby Hermie13 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:35 pm

A.Zajac wrote:Papelbon has agreed to terms with the Phillies.. $50m/4 yrs


While I don't think this is as bad as the reported/rumored Madson deal...wow, that's a lot of money for a reliever. Thought the Phillies would have learned their lesson from Brad Lidge (not worth 8 figures).....guess not.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Hermie13 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:35 pm

A.Zajac wrote:Jamey Carroll has agreed to terms with the Twins.. $7m/2 yrs.


Good add by the Twins. Glad he didn't end up in Detroit, but still gonna be a menace this year for the Tribe.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby JP_Frost » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:02 pm

Hermie13 wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:Papelbon has agreed to terms with the Phillies.. $50m/4 yrs


While I don't think this is as bad as the reported/rumored Madson deal...wow, that's a lot of money for a reliever. Thought the Phillies would have learned their lesson from Brad Lidge (not worth 8 figures).....guess not.


Apparently the contract includes a 5th year option.

I love the Indians in that regard. Signing relievers to expensive long term deals is playing with fire. I can't really think of any 3-year minimum deals for a $5M+ annual salary that have worked. Maybe Rivera's current contract, but it's safe to say he's in a league of his own.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby GoTribe028 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:44 pm

Twins picked up Ryan Doumit. 1 year 3 million with performance bonus's.

Gotta say, this is one bat I wanted in a Tribe uniform in 2012.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby GeronimoSon » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:05 pm

The Pirates sign Clint Barmes.. a mediocre / average infielder.. two year contract at over $ 5 MM per year.. In a word, over paid.. (okay, it was two words)..
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby GeronimoSon » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:23 am

The early returns from Free Agent predictions aren't looking too good.. As of this writing four players (24 possible choices = 6 x 4) have found new homes in MLB. Our fantastic six contributors {JP frost, Magnetic, AZajac, Dain, G'Son & Homer} have predicted exactly one correct answer: Jonathan Papelbon going to the Phillies. There were six abstentions (i.e. not picked), so, the "batting average" now sits at a robust .056.. very Andy Marte like !

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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby Magneticnorth451 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:33 am

Don't forget Aaron Hill stayed with the D-backs!

Other than that, predicting these things are near impossible.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby daingean » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:48 am

Magneticnorth451 wrote:Don't forget Aaron Hill stayed with the D-backs!

Other than that, predicting these things are near impossible.


woohoo 3 predicted Aaron Hill and 3 declined predicting where he would go. That has to at least increase our team BA to Luis Medina level and above Andy Marte :clapping:
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Postby GeronimoSon » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:51 am

Magneticnorth451 wrote:Don't forget Aaron Hill stayed with the D-backs!

Other than that, predicting these things are near impossible.


Mag...you're right.. I missed that one.. Aaron Hill did stay with the DBax and Mag, Andrew and Dain all had it correct. The other three in our little group of merry prognosticators abstained for him..so that would bring our cumulative batting average from the Andy Marte-like 0.055 all the way up to a more Luis Valbuena-like 0.167!! woo hoo !!... lol..
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Postby GoTribe028 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:49 am

This was reported earlier, Jared Head signed a minor league deal with the Tigers

And today the Royals signed Jonathan Broxton for 1 year, 4 million. He could be a good pickup for the KC pen. They have a lot of good arms, most just so young and no track records besides Soria.
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Re: Free Agent Predictions

Postby GeronimoSon » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:04 pm

Just a quick update heading into the weekend before the Winter Meetings commence in Dallas. At this time, 12 of the top fifty free agents have a new home, but, this happiness has been bashed by the story of the sad six pack. That's us..JP, Mag, Zaj, Dain, G'Son & Homer..Overall, the sad six are a combined 9 for 56 with 14 abstentions or a rousing batting average of 0.143. To date, two of us have combined to go 0 for 17 with 7 abstentions. Two more of us, have the exact same 12 picks, 11 being wrong and both correctly predicting Freddy Garcia's return to the Yankees saved an 0-fer. The remaining two of us combined to go 4 for 8 and 2 for 9 for a total of 6 for 17 with 7 abstentions.

Congrats guys.. I think using a blindfold and dartboard would be just as effective... :drinks:
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