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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:02 pm

Tibe's going Cal HS from here on.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Hermie13 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:06 pm

Kaline to the Tigers....fitting
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Tondo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:08 pm

JP_Frost wrote:The more I'm reading up on the guys the more I think we had another great draft. However, can we sign these kids? We spent like $9M last year and Lindor and Howard alone could cost us close to $6M. That said, which picks are our priority?

My guess (in 15 minutes of reading scouting reports, so take it fwiw):

Lindor
Howard
Sisco
Haase
Tarpley
Peters
Sparks
Kramer


FWIW, Just looked up Grant's drafts:

2008: signed 19 of 20 (17rounder not) and 23 of top 25 picks
2009: signed 19 of 20 (again 17th rounder not) and 20 of top 25
2010: signed 17 of 20 (15th, 16th, 20th not) and 20 of top 25
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Hermie13 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:08 pm

Tri-C!!

lol, love hearing people not from here try and pronounce Cuyahoga
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby entertheshoe » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:21 pm

Tondo wrote:
JP_Frost wrote:The more I'm reading up on the guys the more I think we had another great draft. However, can we sign these kids? We spent like $9M last year and Lindor and Howard alone could cost us close to $6M. That said, which picks are our priority?

My guess (in 15 minutes of reading scouting reports, so take it fwiw):

Lindor
Howard
Sisco
Haase
Tarpley
Peters
Sparks
Kramer


FWIW, Just looked up Grant's drafts:

2008: signed 19 of 20 (17rounder not) and 23 of top 25 picks
2009: signed 19 of 20 (again 17th rounder not) and 20 of top 25
2010: signed 17 of 20 (15th, 16th, 20th not) and 20 of top 25


Is Grant the guy who signs these guys? He's just the scouting guy I would think, other front office people (maybe GM?) do the negotiating, no?
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby daingean » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:23 pm

entertheshoe wrote:
Is Grant the guy who signs these guys? He's just the scouting guy I would think, other front office people (maybe GM?) do the negotiating, no?


Scouts are the ones credited with signing players. If you look at the BA top 10's, it lists the scout who signed the player.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Hermie13 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:24 pm

Andrew's cousin just got drafted :s_tongue
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Tondo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:30 pm

Tyler Nurdin is a 2010 LHP with a 6'2'', 193 lb. frame from Fort Worth, TX who attends R L Paschal HS. Solid athletic build with room to fill out. Leans back in delivery, H 3/4's release with long arm action, falls off on release. Mid 80's FB tails at plate, topped at 87. CB best pitch, very good velo, power downer break with 12/6 shape, very sharp at times, good feel for change with late life. With fine tuned mechanics could have command to pitch backwards to set up CB as out pitch. Very interesting lefty to follow closely. Excellent student.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:31 pm

Hermie13 wrote:Andrew's cousin just got drafted :s_tongue

Andrew's Cuz is 3rd ranked HS kid from Tennessee. Guess the family athlete gene skipped Andrew. :biggrin:
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:39 pm

Amazed that Wallace Gonzalez lasted that long. Must be unsignable.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby daingean » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:49 pm

Jared Ruxer from WWBA 17U

2011 RHP Jared Ruxer: LIDS Indiana Bulls/Lawrence Central HS, Indianapolis, IN

6-3, 175 lbs, threw 7 innings in 3-1 Bulls win, 7 hits, 6 K's. Fastball 88-91 mph, 82 mph Slider, 76 mph Chg. Tall athletic build, 3/4's release, fast arm, hides ball well, nice slider with tight spin, gets on top of ball, good stamina, maintained velo, clean arm action, very good command, calm and confident with good fluid rhythm, throws SL in any count, good sink/tail occ on FB, bulldog personality, 90 mph on last pitch of game with full count and bases loaded.


Ruxer attends the same high school as 2011 RHP Christian Montgomery, one of the top ranked pitchers in the 2011 class. That is one powerful set of high school starting pitchers.


From WWBA 18U World Championship - played on same team as Dillion Howard and Dillon Peters

RHP Jared Ruxer (2011 Indianapolis, IN) touched 91 and showed some late run on his fastball.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Hermie13 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:51 pm

Not sure I'd want to go to the same organization as my lil bro if I was Bryan....
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:53 pm

This Polonius kid is from Curacao. Has there ever been a ML player from Curacao?
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Tondo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:54 pm

Jared Ruxer is a 2011 RHP with a 6-3 175 lb. frame from Indianapolis, IN who attends Lawrence Central HS. Lanky slender build, plenty of room to get stronger. Hands over head delivery, very limited lower half use, tall and fall delivery. Very fast and easy arm, compact in back. Fastball 89-92 mph, outstanding running action at times, FB even moves when up in zone, can pitch to spots even with FB movement. Change up best off speed, some feel, SL has soft present spin. Could have mid 90's arm with work and maturity, must develop better off speed feel. Good student.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby dazindiansfanuk » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:55 pm

Rocky55 wrote:This Polonius kid is from Curacao. Has there ever been a ML player from Curacao?


I'm pretty sure Andruw Jones is from Curacao.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:56 pm

OB's guy Curtiss picked by Col in the 30th. No way he signs.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby JP_Frost » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:56 pm

Rocky55 wrote:This Polonius kid is from Curacao. Has there ever been a ML player from Curacao?


I believe Jurrjens is from the Antilles as well (Curacao, Aruba, etc). It's actually part of the dutch kingdom (sort of).

Btw, loving this draft so far.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby A.Zajac » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:57 pm

Rocky55 wrote:
Hermie13 wrote:Andrew's cousin just got drafted :s_tongue

Andrew's Cuz is 3rd ranked HS kid from Tennessee. Guess the family athlete gene skipped Andrew. :biggrin:


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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:58 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:This Polonius kid is from Curacao. Has there ever been a ML player from Curacao?


I'm pretty sure Andruw Jones is from Curacao.

You may be right, didn't think of him. :good:
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:00 pm

A.Zajac wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:
Hermie13 wrote:Andrew's cousin just got drafted :s_tongue

Andrew's Cuz is 3rd ranked HS kid from Tennessee. Guess the family athlete gene skipped Andrew. :biggrin:


What'd I miss here? :dunno:

Kid named Zajac got drafted out of HS in Tennessee. :friends:
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Hermie13 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:01 pm

A.Zajac wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:
Hermie13 wrote:Andrew's cousin just got drafted :s_tongue

Andrew's Cuz is 3rd ranked HS kid from Tennessee. Guess the family athlete gene skipped Andrew. :biggrin:


What'd I miss here? :dunno:


Jeff Zajac drafted by the Pirates (was joking on the cousin part)
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby A.Zajac » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:02 pm

Rocky55 wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:
Hermie13 wrote:Andrew's cousin just got drafted :s_tongue

Andrew's Cuz is 3rd ranked HS kid from Tennessee. Guess the family athlete gene skipped Andrew. :biggrin:


What'd I miss here? :dunno:

Kid named Zajac got drafted out of HS in Tennessee. :friends:


I played eight years of baseball.. one of my cousins actually played minor league baseball for the Pirates in AAA quite a few years back.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby daingean » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:02 pm

Rocky55 wrote:This Polonius kid is from Curacao. Has there ever been a ML player from Curacao?


Andruw Jones (CF - GG winner) and Randall Simon (the guy that knocked down the Bratwurst in the weiner race in Milwakee) both started in the Braves organization. I'm pretty sure there was a pitcher around there somewhere
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby dazindiansfanuk » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:03 pm

Wladimir Balentin and Roger Bernadina are also from Curacao (as well as Jurrjens menioned previously).
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby homerawayfromhome » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:09 pm

11 college guys

9 juco

10 hs

If I figured it up right.
Alot of upside and 20pks left to go.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby JP_Frost » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:12 pm

Why not just sign the top 10 players we drafted (not necessarily rounds 1-10) and call it a day? Like our system needs another 30 or so players, just sign the best ones even if it costs $10M.

/whishful thinking.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby elrod enchilada » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:20 pm

I love 19 HS and juco picks. That is really fantastic. Even the college picks had a shortage of the Diego Seastrunk Jordan Cooper deadweight options.

Signing them will be a bitch. I would love to see them nail a pile of those HS picks.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:21 pm

A.Zajac wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:
Hermie13 wrote:Andrew's cousin just got drafted :s_tongue

Andrew's Cuz is 3rd ranked HS kid from Tennessee. Guess the family athlete gene skipped Andrew. :biggrin:


What'd I miss here? :dunno:

Kid named Zajac got drafted out of HS in Tennessee. :friends:


I played eight years of baseball.. one of my cousins actually played minor league baseball for the Pirates in AAA quite a few years back.

I had a Cuz that made it to AA & a Great Uncle who pitched for the Cards, Pirates, Phillies, A's & the Yanks-(20 yr career) but it skipped me too. :drinks:
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby A.Zajac » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:25 pm

Rocky55 wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:
Hermie13 wrote:Andrew's cousin just got drafted :s_tongue

Andrew's Cuz is 3rd ranked HS kid from Tennessee. Guess the family athlete gene skipped Andrew. :biggrin:


What'd I miss here? :dunno:

Kid named Zajac got drafted out of HS in Tennessee. :friends:


I played eight years of baseball.. one of my cousins actually played minor league baseball for the Pirates in AAA quite a few years back.

I had a Cuz that made it to AA & a Great Uncle who pitched for the Cards, Pirates, Phillies, A's & the Yanks-(20 yr career) but it skipped me too. :drinks:


I'm doing the next best thing anyway! :drinks:
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:38 pm

A.Zajac wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:
Hermie13 wrote:Andrew's cousin just got drafted :s_tongue

Andrew's Cuz is 3rd ranked HS kid from Tennessee. Guess the family athlete gene skipped Andrew. :biggrin:


What'd I miss here? :dunno:

Kid named Zajac got drafted out of HS in Tennessee. :friends:


I played eight years of baseball.. one of my cousins actually played minor league baseball for the Pirates in AAA quite a few years back.

I had a Cuz that made it to AA & a Great Uncle who pitched for the Cards, Pirates, Phillies, A's & the Yanks-(20 yr career) but it skipped me too. :drinks:


I'm doing the next best thing anyway! :drinks:

Hell yeah, why get all sweaty. :drinks:
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby entertheshoe » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:39 pm

A look at where the guys the Tribe drafted are headed if they do not sign:

Polonius - xfer to WVU
Ruxer - go to Louisville
Nurdin - xfer to Texas State
Frazar - stay at his Galveston
Diemer - go to UC Fullerton
Kramer - go to UCLA
Sparks - go to UC Irvine
Allen - stay at High Point for RS senior year
Reckling - stay at Rice for senior year
Elliot - stay at Ball State for senior year
Peters - go to Texas
Morimando - go to Eastern Carolina
Armstrong - stay for Junior year at Eastern Carolina
Brady - return for Junior year at Clemson
Merritt - stay at McKlennan CC?
Hankins - stay at Seminole College
Anderson - xfer to TCU
MacPhee - return for senior year at Arizona State
Sides - return for his RS Senior year at Samford
DeJesus - return to Angelina College? as a sophomore, I think
Johnson - return to Cal Poly for senior year
Smith - return for junior year at St. Cloud St.
Tarpley - go to USC
Haase - go to OSU
Myles - return for senior year at Stephen F. Austin
Roberts - return for senior year at Virginia
Lowery - return to James Madison for senior year
Sisco - return to Merced JC?
Howard - go to Arkansas
Lindor - go to JC, committed to FSU

Did I get that all right? I just wanted to see it all put together on one page so please correct me if I got anything wrong.

I don't know college baseball all that well, but there are some pretty serious colleges that some of these guys are considering and quite a few that don't have too many options so should be pretty easy to sign.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby jellis » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:47 pm

entertheshoe wrote:A look at where the guys the Tribe drafted are headed if they do not sign:

Polonius - xfer to WVU
Ruxer - go to Louisville
Nurdin - xfer to Texas State
Frazar - stay at his Galveston
Diemer - go to UC Fullerton
Kramer - go to UCLA
Sparks - go to UC Irvine
Allen - stay at High Point for RS senior year
Reckling - stay at Rice for senior year
Elliot - stay at Ball State for senior year
Peters - go to Texas
Morimando - go to Eastern Carolina
Armstrong - stay for Junior year at Eastern Carolina
Brady - return for Junior year at Clemson
Merritt - stay at McKlennan CC?
Hankins - stay at Seminole College
Anderson - xfer to TCU
MacPhee - return for senior year at Arizona State
Sides - return for his RS Senior year at Samford
DeJesus - return to Angelina College? as a sophomore, I think
Johnson - return to Cal Poly for senior year
Smith - return for junior year at St. Cloud St.
Tarpley - go to USC
Haase - go to OSU
Myles - return for senior year at Stephen F. Austin
Roberts - return for senior year at Virginia
Lowery - return to James Madison for senior year
Sisco - return to Merced JC?
Howard - go to Arkansas
Lindor - go to FSU

Did I get that all right? I just wanted to see it all put together on one page so please correct me if I got anything wrong.

I don't know college baseball all that well, but there are some pretty serious colleges that some of these guys are considering and quite a few that don't have too many options so should be pretty easy to sign.



law said lindor does not have the grades to go to school today, so FSU committed but would have to go JC
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby jellis » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:48 pm

grant talking draft on the radio currently
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby TonyIBI » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:49 pm

WHoever asked, the GM does not really have anything to do with signing any of these picks. The signing duties almost all lie with the area scouts who work through Brad Grant and the rest of his staff. Grant/Mirabelli are more directly involved in negotiating with the big dollar guys.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby MadThinker88 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:51 pm

After hearing his name so much, I'm curious -Was Burch smith ever drafted today??
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Falcons115 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:53 pm

Yes, i believe 14th rd, to the Pads.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby homerawayfromhome » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:54 pm

Thanx for the breakdown entertheshoe, think you missed Lowery was a senior but could be wrong.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby JP_Frost » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:55 pm

MadThinker88 wrote:After hearing his name so much, I'm curious -Was Burch smith ever drafted today??


Yeah. 14th round by the Padres :cry:
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby MadThinker88 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:55 pm

Falcons115 wrote:Yes, i believe 14th rd, to the Pads.


Thanks for the info (insert smilie of character tipping his cap)
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Tondo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:56 pm

11-12 easy signings + 3of4 from Lindor, Howard, Tarpley, Haase + 2-3 from the rest

I'd be ok to punt Lindor, if he wants more than 3.5 AND if that means we get Howard, Haase, Tarpley, Peters, Sparks and Kramer all over slot..it would be like trading out of the 8th pick, just that we get the same pick again next draft on top

Overall a good, solid 2nd day :clapping:
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Pork Chop Pough » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:07 pm

daingean wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:This Polonius kid is from Curacao. Has there ever been a ML player from Curacao?


Andruw Jones (CF - GG winner) and Randall Simon (the guy that knocked down the Bratwurst in the weiner race in Milwakee) both started in the Braves organization. I'm pretty sure there was a pitcher around there somewhere

Sidney Ponson was from Aruba and was knighted or something or like that (which I believe helped him out with some legal trouble there later on).

The first player from Curacao was the great Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:19 pm

Want to say Thanks to Jeff, Tony, & Andrew for the work on the bios on the home page. Y'all ROCK!!! :clapping:
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby homerawayfromhome » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:25 pm

If that's the case with Lindor could give tribe a bit of leverage... Not much could go jc route like LWashington. Think the tribe will have to put out some serious cash for Lindor and Howard, really like these two. If these picks were interchanged I think there would have been a lot less bickering yesterday. Thing about not getting ABradley tribe should have more to spend than they would have. Def. Some interesting pks. Love the aggressiveness, I'd be glad to see the tribe get 15-18 of these guys. It will be tough.
If the tribe spends $9.5 million again whose the targets?
Lindor 3.25
Howard 2
Sisco 500k
Lowery 150k
Roberts 150k
Myles 150k
Haase 1.15
Tarpley 1.1
Smith 150k
Johnson 150k
DeJesus 150k
Sides 150k
Macphee 150k
Allen 150k
Kramer 500k

This is 15 Players for about $10 mil. Probably what we will see maybe a bit more.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby entertheshoe » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:25 pm

Rocky55 wrote:Want to say Thanks to Jeff, Tony, & Andrew for the work on the bios on the home page. Y'all ROCK!!! :clapping:


Yup!

I expect an article ranking the top Indians draftees along with the likelihood of them signing as well as an updated organizational top 10 assuming that all of the draft picks sign (just for kicks) on my desk by tomorrow morning!

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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby homerawayfromhome » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:29 pm

man... @shoe do we work together? :search:
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby TonyIBI » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:18 am

entertheshoe wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:Want to say Thanks to Jeff, Tony, & Andrew for the work on the bios on the home page. Y'all ROCK!!! :clapping:


Yup!

I expect an article ranking the top Indians draftees along with the likelihood of them signing as well as an updated organizational top 10 assuming that all of the draft picks sign (just for kicks) on my desk by tomorrow morning!

:s_cool


How about by Friday? :s_cool
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby OhioBaseball » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:50 am

I know he's not ranked highly by BA, but Jake Sisco looks like a good pitching prospect. I don't know his velocities, what his breaking pitches look like or his command (others' scouting reports give him fair marks on all three, though), but this guy is a very nice projectable pitching talent. Good pitcher's body, athletic and his arm is nice and loose. I think there is more velocity to come with him. It does not take too much imagination to see Sisco develop into a Matt Barnes-type in the not too distant future. It's possible that he's got a glaring weakness or two that is not evident in his video clip, but there are HS guys that went late 1st round and in the supplemental round that do not have the talent Sisco has. Think Sisco is a high upside guy and if he signs for slot or slightly above, the Indians will have done very well. Happy with the selection.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby GeronimoSon » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:15 am

The selection of Evan Frazar could be the biggest steal of the later rounds of the draft for the Indians. This kid is a lot like Nomar Garciapara. He's got a competitive edge, strong wrists, soft hands, great throwing arm and hits line drives everywhere.. he's got a lot of upside & should be a relatively easy sign.. Really like the pick..
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby PanRains » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:50 am

Rocky55 wrote:This Polonius kid is from Curacao. Has there ever been a ML player from Curacao?


How soon they forget! The immortal Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens is from Curacao.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby daingean » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:06 pm

PanRains wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:This Polonius kid is from Curacao. Has there ever been a ML player from Curacao?


How soon they forget! The immortal Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens is from Curacao.


it was forgotten on purpose. #@&! you .... now I can't unremember it!!!! :biggrin:
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