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Offseason Expectations

Postby homerawayfromhome » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:21 pm

Just thought I would throw this out there. What do you expect to see the Tribe do this offseason. Post any rumors that are floating around about possible signings or potential trades or even players you think the Tribe should consider signing this offseason.

Austin Kearns could be a rh bat the line up needs.
Kevin Kouzmanoff 3b could be a target when/if he is non-tendered.

Who could the Tribe target as a vet. pitcher. Is it still possible that Zach Duke is non-tendered and then is a possible signing.

Who will be this year's Russ Branyan signing?
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby elrod enchilada » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:35 pm

Manny Acta says he wants a starting pitcher. I don't know if I agree. Can't we forge a decent staff out of Carmona, Carrasco, Masterson, Talbot, Tomlin, Gomez and Huff? Plus we have several decent prospects only a year or two away. Save money here and use it for the 2011 draft. Or put it into a single deal for a good right-handed power bat.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby homerawayfromhome » Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:33 pm

I actually expect our starting staff to be much better next season. I believe we have a solid four spots and the fifth spot is the only one that I could really see Tomlin, Huff, Gomez or maybe even Laffey.

The Tribe definately needs a RH power bat but who?

I'll go out on a limb and say...
Carmona betters his numbers next yr.
Masterson wins 10 or more gms.
Talbot wins 10 but his era is 4.50 actually closer to 5.
Carrasco wins 10 plus and has an era around 4 probably less. I wouldn't be surprised if he is actually the best pitcher the Tribe acq. between the Lee and Martinez deals.
Chris Perez svs 35 gms w/ an era less than 2.5.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby TitoFrancona » Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:35 pm

The only excitement I see is rule 5 this off season. I think any signings they make will be minor league deals. Basically - nothing to see here.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby jellis » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:01 pm

Its a rebuild year, I will be more upset if we waste flexibility and spots, when we need to see what this wave of players can do. I think sickels list was excellent and what it shows is we have more arms then we even have space for. I am happy with a year like last year, if we figure out how are keepers and if a few more young guys take the next step
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby homerawayfromhome » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:05 pm

Unfortanely I agree to some extent. I think we may see a cpl signings as you mentioned that are spring invites, maybe a small trade but dont really expect to see a FA until mid January at the very earliest.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby homerawayfromhome » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:08 pm

What about Felipe Lopez he can play 2b, SS and 3b does he bat RH? I cant remember off hand, but a 1yr and 1mil deal wouldn't be bad to fill 3b until Chisenhall is ready.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby TonyIBI » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:39 pm

TitoFrancona wrote:The only excitement I see is rule 5 this off season. I think any signings they make will be minor league deals. Basically - nothing to see here.


I agree. Basically, anyone who can pitch or play 3B or utility who can be signed to an NRI deal is in play.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby indianinkslinger » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:52 pm

TonyIPI wrote:
TitoFrancona wrote:The only excitement I see is rule 5 this off season. I think any signings they make will be minor league deals. Basically - nothing to see here.


I agree. Basically, anyone who can pitch or play 3B or utility who can be signed to an NRI deal is in play.

We can fool around at 3B with NRI guys but I would like us to bite the bullet as far as pitching goes and make this a transition year. I am all for starting with the usual suspects and calling up midseason replacements along with the position prospects. Maybe the RH bat we need will be here by then with Nix or Goedert after Chis gets to Cleveland. I would not be adverse to trading some of our pitching prospects, even now, but I think the time to prune is likely midseason 2011 or after the season. Next year's 40 could be more difficult than this years :pleasantry:
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby homerawayfromhome » Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:31 pm

@indiansinkslinger I'd agree with the talent that this club has brought in the past several yrs through trades, etc. I think a case could be made to add numerous players next offseason. Maybe the best bet is to see several of them this yr and then decide who the keepers are and pkg a cpl of the extra parts and add a need pos. With all the arms that this club has I think giving up a cpl via tr next off season to acq. a need player wouldnt be a bad idea.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby npc29 » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:54 am

homerawayfromhome wrote:What about Felipe Lopez he can play 2b, SS and 3b does he bat RH? I cant remember off hand, but a 1yr and 1mil deal wouldn't be bad to fill 3b until Chisenhall is ready.


Lopez isn't exactly someone that would fit in the Indians clubhouse (or many clubhouses for that matter).

They could fill that 3b/utility spot by not having to give someone like Lopez a guaranteed deal. No chance.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GeronimoSon » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:11 am

Homeraway... why wait until next offseason?.. Bringing in a corner infielder / utility player for the 2011 season would allow that player to acclimate to the culture of our wigwam.. Gelling.. chemistry.. team concept indoctrination can only be achieved by keeping the number of hired guns to a minimum and letting the players play a full season or more, together. The question becomes.. who? Chavez? Crede? A non-tendered Kooz?. A trade for someone like Tyler Greene (cards), Matt Tuiasosopo (m's), Andres Blanco (rangers), or Juan Francisco (reds) may prove to be exactly the type of stop gap measure that the team needs. Just a thought...
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby TonyIBI » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:58 am

npc29 wrote:
homerawayfromhome wrote:What about Felipe Lopez he can play 2b, SS and 3b does he bat RH? I cant remember off hand, but a 1yr and 1mil deal wouldn't be bad to fill 3b until Chisenhall is ready.


Lopez isn't exactly someone that would fit in the Indians clubhouse (or many clubhouses for that matter).

They could fill that 3b/utility spot by not having to give someone like Lopez a guaranteed deal. No chance.


Lopez makes Nix look like George Brett.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby Hermie13 » Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:39 pm

GeronimoSon wrote:Homeraway... why wait until next offseason?.. Bringing in a corner infielder / utility player for the 2011 season would allow that player to acclimate to the culture of our wigwam.. Gelling.. chemistry.. team concept indoctrination can only be achieved by keeping the number of hired guns to a minimum and letting the players play a full season or more, together. The question becomes.. who? Chavez? Crede? A non-tendered Kooz?. A trade for someone like Tyler Greene (cards), Matt Tuiasosopo (m's), Andres Blanco (rangers), or Juan Francisco (reds) may prove to be exactly the type of stop gap measure that the team needs. Just a thought...


If you get a guy like Crede or Chavez though, they won't be around for 2012...so them getting acclimated to the organization is useless. They'd be like a Branyan, Kearns, Cordova, Pavano, etc type thing.

Not sure why we'd trade Carmona to get a stopgap like Juan Francisco either.....cause that's what it'd take to pry him from Cincy.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby indianinkslinger » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:32 pm

TonyIPI wrote:
npc29 wrote:
homerawayfromhome wrote:What about Felipe Lopez he can play 2b, SS and 3b does he bat RH? I cant remember off hand, but a 1yr and 1mil deal wouldn't be bad to fill 3b until Chisenhall is ready.


Lopez isn't exactly someone that would fit in the Indians clubhouse (or many clubhouses for that matter).

They could fill that 3b/utility spot by not having to give someone like Lopez a guaranteed deal. No chance.


Lopez makes Nix look like George Brett.

+1 and funny too. :s_biggrin
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby homerawayfromhome » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:27 pm

Lopez is someone the org. has been high on at one time they seriously considered drafting him, actually Id personally like Edwin Encarnacion as a stop gap but lets face it the club probably isnt going to spend that kind of money it would take to get him. Anybody else from the scrap heap that they might seriously consider.
What happened with Eric Chavez injury? or just no production.
Crede hasnt played in a yr and has health issues he may be a poss. if he had limited playing time/ rest if thats the case why even sign him.
Who could the Tribe pursue after the non-tender deadline?
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby jellis » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:49 pm

homerawayfromhome wrote:Lopez is someone the org. has been high on at one time they seriously considered drafting him, actually Id personally like Edwin Encarnacion as a stop gap but lets face it the club probably isnt going to spend that kind of money it would take to get him. Anybody else from the scrap heap that they might seriously consider.
What happened with Eric Chavez injury? or just no production.
Crede hasnt played in a yr and has health issues he may be a poss. if he had limited playing time/ rest if thats the case why even sign him.
Who could the Tribe pursue after the non-tender deadline?



I actually wouldnt mind Kouz, we could prolly do a swap for a player like Jensen lewis since both are arb eligible
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby homerawayfromhome » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:06 pm

How about Jose Lopez? Curious why some names haven't been released yet. Maybe some minor moves. Jose could be a nice add but not sure about the contract he would want.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GeronimoSon » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:52 pm

trade Carmona to get a stopgap like Juan Francisco either.....cause that's what it'd take to pry him from Cincy
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby TonyIBI » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:10 am

homerawayfromhome wrote:How about Jose Lopez? Curious why some names haven't been released yet. Maybe some minor moves. Jose could be a nice add but not sure about the contract he would want.


Hearing he was traded to the Rockies tonight.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby chitowntribephan » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:36 am

He's a year older than Andy Marte and don't know how he compares defensively but anyone interested in taking a flier on Josh Fields? It concerns me he couldn't secure a spot with the Royals and White Sox who both had holes to fill at 3B but I wouldn't mind at least throwing the RH bat in the mix for less than $1 mil.

Best thing I can say about Fields is that when you plug him into Baseball-Reference, his #1 comp is Jeff Manto. And that says something...

As for Felipe Lopez, well, I've stumped for that guy before when he was an even better candidate for a spot. At least then he had some numbers to support bringing him in. That ship has sailed though. Lopez really is bad news and couldn't even last the season for the ONLY team that would give him a shot last offseason. I'd just as soon play Jayson Nix in 2011. Hell, I think I'd just as soon play Toby Harrah in 2011.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby Pork Chop Pough » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:21 am

Josh Fields... is heading into his age 28 season, used to play for the White Sox, has some pop, but terrible bb/k numbers, and is an awful defensive third baseman. Are we trying to replace Jayson Nix or clone him? OK, I'll admit that he might still have slightly more upside than Nix, but I think Nix is a much better bet to be at least serviceable in plugging a hole on the major league roster for a few months.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GoTribe028 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:25 am

TonyIPI wrote:
homerawayfromhome wrote:How about Jose Lopez? Curious why some names haven't been released yet. Maybe some minor moves. Jose could be a nice add but not sure about the contract he would want.


Hearing he was traded to the Rockies tonight.


Jordan Bastian wrote last night that the Indians actually were talking to Seattle about Lopez before Colorado jumped in. Would have been a decent risk/reward kind of move IMO, but oh well.

Seems like every player not named Carl Crawford or Cliff Lee has been connected to the Rockies in some form so far this offseason.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby artgold » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:43 am

If we are looking for some short term plug-in guys for 3rd base, I'd probably see how much Oakland wants for veteran minor league infielder Steve Tolleson.

I saw him play a few games this year at Sacramento, though when I saw him he was at shortstop. Overall he seemed like a decent athlete with a pretty decent glove and a good arm. His bat seemed OK, I saw him hit some decent line drives and work deep into counts. Might be worth taking a look at for the short term:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minor ... lles001ste


We also had Dallas McPherson out here in Sacramento, but frankly with his strikeout rate I'd just as soon just go with Nix.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GeronimoSon » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:49 am

...Who could the Tribe pursue after the non-tender deadline...
Interesting group of non-tenders are available. The sentimental favorite (as well as defensive specialist), Kevin Kouzmanoff, was tendered a contract, while recently acquired Edwin Encarnacion was non-tendered. This doesn't exclude the possibility of making a trade with the A's. It could be a low level deal of an Indians High A prospect with upside for the Koooz.. or.. something completely off the wall:

Russell Martin. Martin was non-tendered as the Dodgers have opted to pursue Rod Barajas. Russell Martin has had two off years in a row, however, a hip injury may have been the principal cause for at part of his decline. He's alleged to be getting back to health and..most important to this posting.. has limited experience at 3B at the MLB level. Martin was drafted as a SS (ala Vmart?) and has played a very limited amount of games as a LF. His price tag "option" was the reason he was non-tendered.

He could become a primary backup/primary insurance policy for young Mr Santana, play 3B(?), adds pop and depth from the Right Side of the plate.. and would NOT be an obstacle to the future development of the kids (Chiz, Phelps, Goedert, Bellows) coming up in the minors..

Any thoughts? (besides it won't happen because it won't happen or it will "take Carmona to pry" Kooz away, please)
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GoTribe028 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:53 am

GeronimoSon wrote:
...Who could the Tribe pursue after the non-tender deadline...
Interesting group of non-tenders are available. The sentimental favorite (as well as defensive specialist), Kevin Kouzmanoff, was tendered a contract, while recently acquired Edwin Encarnacion was non-tendered. This doesn't exclude the possibility of making a trade with the A's. It could be a low level deal of an Indians High A prospect with upside for the Koooz.. or.. something completely off the wall:

Russell Martin. Martin was non-tendered as the Dodgers have opted to pursue Rod Barajas. Russell Martin has had two off years in a row, however, a hip injury may have been the principal cause for at part of his decline. He's alleged to be getting back to health and..most important to this posting.. has limited experience at 3B at the MLB level. Martin was drafted as a SS (ala Vmart?) and has played a very limited amount of games as a LF. His price tag "option" was the reason he was non-tendered.

He could become a primary backup/primary insurance policy for young Mr Santana, play 3B(?), adds pop and depth from the Right Side of the plate.. and would NOT be an obstacle to the future development of the kids (Chiz, Phelps, Goedert, Bellows) coming up in the minors..

Any thoughts? (besides it won't happen because it won't happen or it will "take Carmona to pry" Kooz away, please)


I like Martin, but I have a feeling he'll actually have a bit of interest on the open market, being a catcher and all. The
Yanks just missed out on trading for him apparently, have to think they'll throw a few bucks his way, even if it's just as a part timer, there's potentially a big payoff for whoever signs him.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby Hermie13 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:36 pm

GeronimoSon wrote:
trade Carmona to get a stopgap like Juan Francisco either.....cause that's what it'd take to pry him from Cincy
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ha, my exact reaction too
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby indianinkslinger » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:58 pm

GeronimoSon wrote:
...Who could the Tribe pursue after the non-tender deadline...
Interesting group of non-tenders are available. The sentimental favorite (as well as defensive specialist), Kevin Kouzmanoff, was tendered a contract, while recently acquired Edwin Encarnacion was non-tendered. This doesn't exclude the possibility of making a trade with the A's. It could be a low level deal of an Indians High A prospect with upside for the Koooz.. or.. something completely off the wall:

Russell Martin. Martin was non-tendered as the Dodgers have opted to pursue Rod Barajas. Russell Martin has had two off years in a row, however, a hip injury may have been the principal cause for at part of his decline. He's alleged to be getting back to health and..most important to this posting.. has limited experience at 3B at the MLB level. Martin was drafted as a SS (ala Vmart?) and has played a very limited amount of games as a LF. His price tag "option" was the reason he was non-tendered.

He could become a primary backup/primary insurance policy for young Mr Santana, play 3B(?), adds pop and depth from the Right Side of the plate.. and would NOT be an obstacle to the future development of the kids (Chiz, Phelps, Goedert, Bellows) coming up in the minors..

Any thoughts? (besides it won't happen because it won't happen or it will "take Carmona to pry" Kooz away, please)

Still cannot wrap my head around the concept of Kooz as a "defensive specialist". What exactly is interesting? No 3B better than Nix and nothing resembling a SP even close to those currently in the organization. Maybe Encarnacion as a RH DH but he is worse than Nix, maybe Goedert too, defensively. No real RH bat in the OF either. From the Indians perspective, I don't think much of the non-tenders. :pleasantry:
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby homerawayfromhome » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:38 pm

Didn't Encarnacion swat 21 hrs last yr? Its not like we are going to get a gold glove 3b unless the club is going to pay up. Encarnacion would at least add a legit power threat and may have trade value later in the season, when/ if Chisenhall is ready to takeover.

I wonder how seriously the ChiSox considered moving Gordon Beckham?

Is Ian Stewart from the Rockies a 3b?

I think the best thing is to fill the hole at 3d for now until Chisenhall is ready. Maybe it's a waste of time but I consider it a good idea to add someone who adds either future trade value or a stop gap re-tread.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GoTribe028 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:55 pm

Looks like the Indians signed Jack Hannahan to a minor league deal.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GhostofTedCox » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:15 pm

GoTribe028 wrote:Looks like the Indians signed Jack Hannahan to a minor league deal.


I'm in favor of any minor league deals. I think he plays a decent 3B, but offensively he's a poor mans Louis Valbuena.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby artgold » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:48 pm

GoTribe028 wrote:Looks like the Indians signed Jack Hannahan to a minor league deal.


He was out in this neck of the woods with Oakland for a couple of years.

Ewwww. He, along with Mark Ellis, Daric Barton and Bobby Crosby formed the worst hitting infield I have ever seen. Worse yet, Donnie Murphy was the backup utility infielder, and he batted under .200.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GoTribe028 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:04 am

Hoynsie claims that the Indians and Nick Punto have mutual interest

http://twitter.com/hoynsie/status/10897042440196097#

I'm actually a fan of Punto....good fielder...can he stay healthy?
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby A.Zajac » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:08 am

GoTribe028 wrote:Hoynsie claims that the Indians and Nick Punto have mutual interest

http://twitter.com/hoynsie/status/10897042440196097#

I'm actually a fan of Punto....good fielder...can he stay healthy?


Punto is actually a guy I'd welcome.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GoTribe028 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:15 am

A.Zajac wrote:
GoTribe028 wrote:Hoynsie claims that the Indians and Nick Punto have mutual interest

http://twitter.com/hoynsie/status/10897042440196097#

I'm actually a fan of Punto....good fielder...can he stay healthy?


Punto is actually a guy I'd welcome.


Yep, actually could go a long way in effort to improve the infield defense. Very steady fielder, ala Jamey Carroll.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GeronimoSon » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:19 am

...Hoynsie claims that the Indians and Nick Punto have mutual interest...
Anytime a claim is made by Paul Hoynes, stop and look at the use of the words used.. In this case, Hoynes is making a claim that something might be possible.. translation, he has no information, no foundation, no colaberating source, nothing.. in short.. This is a typical "nothing" non story/tweet by Hoynes where he has no accountability for any of these claims.. Don't believe it !!

Fans of the Twins have long clamored to get Punto off their team. He's an inconsistent utility guy with a slightly better glove & bat than Jason Nix, but less power. He would not provide any impact for a mediocre club..pass on this twins garbage.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GoTribe028 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:22 am

GeronimoSon wrote:
...Hoynsie claims that the Indians and Nick Punto have mutual interest...
Anytime a claim is made by Paul Hoynes, stop and look at the use of the words used.. In this case, Hoynes is making a claim that something might be possible.. translation, he has no information, no foundation, no colaberating source, nothing.. in short.. This is a typical "nothing" non story/tweet by Hoynes where he has no accountability for any of these claims.. Don't believe it !!

Fans of the Twins have long clamored to get Punto off their team. He's an inconsistent utility guy with a slightly better glove & bat than Jason Nix, but less power. He would not provide any impact for a mediocre club..pass on this twins garbage.


:s_rofl So he's better than Nix?
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby davidkey » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:56 am

Yep, I think that's what Geronimo Son is saying :biggrin:

Given the circumstances....... (no $ to sign a big name in free agency; don't want to trade young talent if we don't have to, as we would to get a Kouz or some other mediocre player).........Punto would be a great signing. Yeah, he's very average, but he's a heck of a lot better than bad, which is what Nix/Marte/Valmalo/Hannahan have been or will be.

Don't forget that Punto comes from a top notch, winning organization, and in theory could be a great field/dugout/clubhouse presence. Maybe he can teach Acta some of Gardenhire's tricks. Whatever the case, the team needs winners and we have none right now.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GhostofTedCox » Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:11 am

davidkey wrote:Yep, I think that's what Geronimo Son is saying :biggrin:

Given the circumstances....... (no $ to sign a big name in free agency; don't want to trade young talent if we don't have to, as we would to get a Kouz or some other mediocre player).........Punto would be a great signing. Yeah, he's very average, but he's a heck of a lot better than bad, which is what Nix/Marte/Valmalo/Hannahan have been or will be.

Don't forget that Punto comes from a top notch, winning organization, and in theory could be a great field/dugout/clubhouse presence. Maybe he can teach Acta some of Gardenhire's tricks. Whatever the case, the team needs winners and we have none right now.


+1, One mans gold is another mans garbage. Right now, the Indians aren't the Twins.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby homerawayfromhome » Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:25 am

Punto would help the defense, but offers little punch. I'd settle but honestly didn't think we would be talking about him. Still it's wait and see. Edwin Encarnacion had 21 hrs in about 350 ab and 18 errors at third Jose lopez had 10 hrs and 18 errors. Personally I'd like punto as a utility player and Edwin encarnacion on a 1 yr deal with a club option to provide some pop and potential trade value if Lonnie Chisenhall is ready sooner rather than later. Tribe probably won't spend in both but a good arguement can be made for both.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby TonyIBI » Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:38 am

I already see a lot of parallels with this current team and the one that started the 2004 season. You sign Punto, and it adds to it as we signed Lou Merloni for a similar role that year. :crazy:
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby homerawayfromhome » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:37 pm

Agreed I do believe there is one difference though, I think there is more minor league depth than the 2004 club. The way I see it we have a lot of heir and a spare players for instance if Chisenhall were to fail Bellows could become a major league 3b if his bat comes around as could Roberto Perez if Chun Chen were to flop as a prospect. The pitching is also very deep especially after the recent aggressive draft and trades of lee and Martinez.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby homerawayfromhome » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:50 pm

Any chance the Tribe would have interest in Mark Reynolds. Reynolds will strikeout 200 times but also hit 30 or more hrs. His 199 avg last yr was horrid but at 26 he's still young and rumor is the d'backs want 2 relievers for him. We have an abundance of pitchers who project as relief help. I'd send them Lewis or smith and hagadone or pestano if they would bite. Reynolds is similar to branyan and Dunn as far as power and k potential. Reynolds could also serve as a dh, 1b and lf help too.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby A.Zajac » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:57 pm

homerawayfromhome wrote:Any chance the Tribe would have interest in Mark Reynolds. Reynolds will strikeout 200 times but also hit 30 or more hrs. His 199 avg last yr was horrid but at 26 he's still young and rumor is the d'backs want 2 relievers for him. We have an abundance of pitchers who project as relief help. I'd send them Lewis or smith and hagadone or pestano if they would bite. Reynolds is similar to branyan and Dunn as far as power and k potential. Reynolds could also serve as a dh, 1b and lf help too.


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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby GeronimoSon » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:12 pm

Mark Reynolds in under contract for two years/$ 12.5 MM with a club option for the third year.. he's a power hitting corner IF'er with a HUGE hole in his bat. When he makes contact.. the ball goes out.. when he doesn't.. he K's at a prodigious rate. You can expect 25-35 homers a year from him while playing every day.. and expect no more than him being a below average to average fielder. The rumor is the DBax are looking for a couple of near MLB ready relievers for him..

At the end of the day..he'd make the Indians the league leaders in K's... perhaps historically so, pass on this DBax Garbage...
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby homerawayfromhome » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:58 pm

I wouldn't touch him either for 12 mil. I couldn't find his contract numbers. But his rh bat would add some thump if he actually made contact.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby Edible14 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:18 pm

homerawayfromhome wrote:I wouldn't touch him either for 12 mil. I couldn't find his contract numbers. But his rh bat would add some thump if he actually made contact.


We already have to mediocre hitters with pop to sort through at 3B. There's an argument to be made for a defensive specialist, but that's not Reynolds.
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby jellis » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:17 pm

Edible14 wrote:
homerawayfromhome wrote:I wouldn't touch him either for 12 mil. I couldn't find his contract numbers. But his rh bat would add some thump if he actually made contact.


We already have to mediocre hitters with pop to sort through at 3B. There's an argument to be made for a defensive specialist, but that's not Reynolds.


I would do it if Zona ate most of his contract and took Lewis and Smith. Who to me are the most trade able relievers
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby jellis » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:19 pm

homerawayfromhome wrote:I wouldn't touch him either for 12 mil. I couldn't find his contract numbers. But his rh bat would add some thump if he actually made contact.

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* signed extension with Arizona 3/15/10, replacing 1-year/$0.5M deal renewed 3/11/10
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Re: Offseason Expectations

Postby jellis » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:23 pm

Edible14 wrote:
homerawayfromhome wrote:I wouldn't touch him either for 12 mil. I couldn't find his contract numbers. But his rh bat would add some thump if he actually made contact.


We already have to mediocre hitters with pop to sort through at 3B. There's an argument to be made for a defensive specialist, but that's not Reynolds.


He is not mediocre, the guy walks at a great rate, and has legit power. Last year was his worst career year and he had an OPS of 752 which was 9th best among all 3B. Better than Aram, Blake, Kouz, Jose Lopez, Inge, and Sandoval. His avg was bad, but he walks enough to make up for it.
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