2010 Official Mahoning Valley Scrappers Thread

by **TonyIBI** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:16 pm

Okay, as requested, here is a thread to talk about the games and anything related to Mahoning Valley.

by **Jake Taylor** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:59 pm

Thanks Tony, I'm sure Zajac is chomping at the bit for this season to start up. Hopefully they can get a couple more guys signed and acquainted quickly to fill out the roster.

Really hope Elvis Araujo makes his way to the squad. I've been wanting to see what he's got for quite a while.

by **A.Zajac** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:54 pm

Jake Taylor wrote:Thanks Tony, I'm sure Zajac is chomping at the bit for this season to start up. Hopefully they can get a couple more guys signed and acquainted quickly to fill out the roster.

Really hope Elvis Araujo makes his way to the squad. I've been wanting to see what he's got for quite a while.

You betcha! :clapping:

by **martyinnewyork** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:30 pm

Curious as to what the Scrappers roster will look like... I know that the Toregas thing is strange as heck... next we'll hear that Adam Miller will start their opener... :lol:

by **MadThinker88** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:14 pm

martyinnewyork wrote:Curious as to what the Scrappers roster will look like... I know that the Toregas thing is strange as heck... next we'll hear that Adam Miller will start their opener...

Now suggesting that for Adam Miller is being cruel.....

by **Upper Box Woodchuck** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:30 pm

martyinnewyork wrote:Curious as to what the Scrappers roster will look like... I know that the Toregas thing is strange as heck... next we'll hear that Adam Miller will start their opener...

Minor league teams usually market the heck out of a rehab appearance, so one can only imagine how big of a deal MV is gonna make of having an ex-big leaguer (okay, it was only a cup of coffee, but this is half-season ball) on their regular roster to start the season. If nothing else comes out of this mess, maybe the Scraps can sell a few extra tickets.

by **indiansfan055** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:50 pm

Has Trey Haley really been demoted to MV? Or is it just a paper move? Thanks.

by **TonyIBI** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:53 pm

indiansfan055 wrote:Has Trey Haley really been demoted to MV? Or is it just a paper move? Thanks.

I am pretty sure it is just a paper move.

by **dnosco** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:14 am

Roster?

by **A.Zajac** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:50 pm

dnosco wrote:Roster?

Today's media day, so we should find out soon.

by **A.Zajac** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:49 pm

STILL waiting on the roster...

by **A.Zajac** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:26 pm

I have somewhat of a roster update, while it's still very incomplete at the moment.

Aaron Fields, Kyle C. Smith, Alex Kaminsky, Wyatt Toregas, Jordan Cooper, Dale Dickerson .. all confirmed on the roster.

Still working to get more.

Also have a few quotes from Fryman to come as well.

by **TonyIBI** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:48 pm

No official roster yeat, but some additional confirmed names: Kevin Fontanez, Dan DeGeorge, Giovanny Urshela, Kevin Rucker, Carlos Moncrief, Juan Aponte, and Moises Montero.

by **A.Zajac** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:24 pm

Roster is now available.

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:26 pm

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb ... e&sid=t545

by **InsaneJedi** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:49 pm

I know Toregas will be playing, but what about Haley and Buscher? Are they just on there as a paper move, or will they be playing?

by **A.Zajac** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:54 pm

InsaneJedi wrote:I know Toregas will be playing, but what about Haley and Buscher? Are they just on there as a paper move, or will they be playing?

98% certain Haley is a paper move. Buscher I've fairly certain is a paper move also, but I'm less certain.

Some of these guys I have no idea who they are. I'm going to have to do some research tonight.

by **martyinnewyork** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:58 pm

Ken Rowe at age 76 still riding the buses...

by **TonyIBI** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:04 pm

Haley and Buscher are paper moves.

Man, that's not a very intriguing lineup. Kinston on down is mostly awful with the lineups. Some promising guys at MV, but no big potential guys at all.

I'm curious to see Rosario and Cooper pitch. Also, interested to see what Seastrunk does hitting as well as Urshela. That's abot it.

by **A.Zajac** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:33 pm

Consigliere wrote:Haley and Buscher are paper moves.

Man, that's not a very intriguing lineup. Kinston on down is mostly awful with the lineups. Some promising guys at MV, but no big potential guys at all.

I'm curious to see Rosario and Cooper pitch. Also, interested to see what Seastrunk does hitting as well as Urshela. That's abot it.

You may see some big potential guys in MV as summer wears on. But right now, very boring.

by **criznit2009** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:38 pm

A.Zajac wrote:
Consigliere wrote:Haley and Buscher are paper moves.

Man, that's not a very intriguing lineup. Kinston on down is mostly awful with the lineups. Some promising guys at MV, but no big potential guys at all.

I'm curious to see Rosario and Cooper pitch. Also, interested to see what Seastrunk does hitting as well as Urshela. That's abot it.

You may see some big potential guys in MV as summer wears on. But right now, very boring.

I agree, guess will see one or 2 off the radar guys have a good year ala Folgia etc... I know this is the "wrong" thread for this part but, really think we might have made a mistake not taking Choice in the draft. Sure we got a great potential FOR lefty but you said Tony.... We have a huge gap between Akron and all the way down to Arizona in the hitting department. Hope Abreu catches on fire or Bellows starts using HGH or somethin........

by **dnosco** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:51 pm

Man, that is the worst roster I have ever seen on an Indians' minor league team. Except for Cooper, really not very many, if any, prospects on this team. Early in the summer but one would have guessed someone would have come up from AZL or something.

by **TonyIBI** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:04 am

dnosco wrote:Man, that is the worst roster I have ever seen on an Indians' minor league team. Except for Cooper, really not very many, if any, prospects on this team. Early in the summer but one would have guessed someone would have come up from AZL or something.

Yeah, though this roster shuld be in flux all year as guys are signed. Also, Urshella may be the best player on the team....really excited to see him.

by **jellis** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:39 am

criznit2009 wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
Consigliere wrote:Haley and Buscher are paper moves.

Man, that's not a very intriguing lineup. Kinston on down is mostly awful with the lineups. Some promising guys at MV, but no big potential guys at all.

I'm curious to see Rosario and Cooper pitch. Also, interested to see what Seastrunk does hitting as well as Urshela. That's abot it.

You may see some big potential guys in MV as summer wears on. But right now, very boring.

I agree, guess will see one or 2 off the radar guys have a good year ala Folgia etc... I know this is the "wrong" thread for this part but, really think we might have made a mistake not taking Choice in the draft. Sure we got a great potential FOR lefty but you said Tony.... We have a huge gap between Akron and all the way down to Arizona in the hitting department. Hope Abreu catches on fire or Bellows starts using HGH or somethin........

Never draft for need, always draft for BPA, you can trade a great player we might lack hitters now but a surplus of pitching is always a great trade tool ask Philly

by **dnosco** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:20 am

Consigliere wrote:
dnosco wrote:Man, that is the worst roster I have ever seen on an Indians' minor league team. Except for Cooper, really not very many, if any, prospects on this team. Early in the summer but one would have guessed someone would have come up from AZL or something.

Yeah, though this roster shuld be in flux all year as guys are signed. Also, Urshella may be the best player on the team....really excited to see him.

Watch, this team will probably win the NY-P title!

Also, I want to see Fontanez play. He intrigues me. A guy with a good glove who, when he can stay on the field, has shown a little pop in his bat.

by **Upper Box Woodchuck** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:17 pm

Consigliere wrote:Haley and Buscher are paper moves.

They're not even on the MV roster now. I just checked.

Also, the Scrappers are operating 5 below the roster limit. They are currently operating at the dress limit of 25, but can add 5 more players without having to make a roster move. So it will likely be a little while before anybody gets cut to make room for a draft pick.

by **A.Zajac** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:30 pm

Upper Box Woodchuck wrote:
Consigliere wrote:Haley and Buscher are paper moves.

They're not even on the MV roster now. I just checked.

Also, the Scrappers are operating 5 below the roster limit. They are currently operating at the dress limit of 25, but can add 5 more players without having to make a roster move. So it will likely be a little while before anybody gets cut to make room for a draft pick.

I expect a few guys to be assigned to MV in the coming days.

by **TonyIBI** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:14 pm

You will probably have a reassignment or two from Kinston/LC to Mahoning Valley shortly, and in addition to that more draft picks will continue to filter in.

by **A.Zajac** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:42 pm

Already seeing some late additions to the roster.. Cannon and Dew added to the roster today.

by **TonyIBI** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:48 pm

Yeah and for those wondering, Moncrief is in the outfield (roster has him incorrectly listed as a pitcher still)

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:27 pm

Wyatt Toregas homers in his first AB

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:17 pm

Toregas homers in his second AB too!

by **MadThinker88** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:43 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:Toregas homers in his second AB too!

I think Wyatt is working out some anger.......
Feel sorry for those rookie pitchers..... NOT :diablo:

by **GoTribe028** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:16 pm

So Toregas is officially Crash Davis? :tease:

by **A.Zajac** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:17 am

Go figure, I miss Toregas's tear. That's what I get for going to the Indians-Pirates game.. hahah.

by **jellis** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:32 am

GoTribe028 wrote:So Toregas is officially Crash Davis?

Davis did it I think above the rookie level, he should dominate hes a fringe major leaguer going against squads that are 30-40% fringe minor leaguer

by **dnosco** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:47 pm

Don't know if he got hurt but Wyatt Toregas was pinch hit for in the 4th of the Scrappers game tonight.

Could he have been traded?

by **A.Zajac** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:55 pm

dnosco wrote:Don't know if he got hurt but Wyatt Toregas was pinch hit for in the 4th of the Scrappers game tonight.

Could he have been traded?

I was wondering the same thing. Tony's at the game, so we'll see.

I was considering going to tonight's game... good thing I didn't though. Man, it's getting ugly there.

by **TonyIBI** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:44 pm

dnosco wrote:Don't know if he got hurt but Wyatt Toregas was pinch hit for in the 4th of the Scrappers game tonight.

Could he have been traded?

Don't know what happened. He just disappeared.

The pitchers were AWFUL tonight. So may have been a thing where after beating him up through three innings with balls in the dirt and all over the zone they took him out for his own sanity. He didn't appear to get hurt.

by **A.Zajac** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:21 am

Consigliere wrote:
dnosco wrote:Don't know if he got hurt but Wyatt Toregas was pinch hit for in the 4th of the Scrappers game tonight.

Could he have been traded?

Don't know what happened. He just disappeared.

The pitchers were AWFUL tonight. So may have been a thing where after beating him up through three innings with balls in the dirt and all over the zone they took him out for his own sanity. He didn't appear to get hurt.

Did you happen to see him walk back to the club house after he was taken out? Most of the Scrappers starters will do that once their night is over.. so, color me curious.

by **TonyIBI** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:40 am

A.Zajac wrote:
Consigliere wrote:
dnosco wrote:Don't know if he got hurt but Wyatt Toregas was pinch hit for in the 4th of the Scrappers game tonight.

Could he have been traded?

Don't know what happened. He just disappeared.

The pitchers were AWFUL tonight. So may have been a thing where after beating him up through three innings with balls in the dirt and all over the zone they took him out for his own sanity. He didn't appear to get hurt.

Did you happen to see him walk back to the club house after he was taken out? Most of the Scrappers starters will do that once their night is over.. so, color me curious.

No, didn't see him. I was in the Scrappers dugout too in the photo booth and the other photographers there I asked said they never saw him leave the field either. Weird.

by **A.Zajac** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:02 am

Consigliere wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:
Consigliere wrote:
dnosco wrote:Don't know if he got hurt but Wyatt Toregas was pinch hit for in the 4th of the Scrappers game tonight.

Could he have been traded?

Don't know what happened. He just disappeared.

The pitchers were AWFUL tonight. So may have been a thing where after beating him up through three innings with balls in the dirt and all over the zone they took him out for his own sanity. He didn't appear to get hurt.

Did you happen to see him walk back to the club house after he was taken out? Most of the Scrappers starters will do that once their night is over.. so, color me curious.

No, didn't see him. I was in the Scrappers dugout too in the photo booth and the other photographers there I asked said they never saw him leave the field either. Weird.

Extremely odd. I've been trying to dig up anything I can find and haven't found a damn thing.

by **TonyIBI** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:26 am

Interesting note on Seastrunk. In talking to him last night I asked why he didn't sign last year with the Giants, and he said because he wanted to go back to school and get picked by the Indians this year. Guess the Indians were set to take him last year and the Giants picked him right before we did. We had called him and told him we were taking him, and he and his scout with the Indians have a tight, great relationship. So he chose to wait it out until this year so he could go to the Indians.

Interesting story to me, as I don't recall such a thing ever happening at least with the Indians. I'll have it for a piece up on the site soon.

by **Upper Box Woodchuck** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:30 pm

Hoping to make it out to the homestand finale on Friday.

by **A.Zajac** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:37 pm

Rough outing for Cooper tonight. Offense has been non-existent. Much of the same we thought it would be.

by **Dave9819** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:15 am

Any update on Toregas?

by **nolanryan** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:30 pm

am looking forward to watching RHP alex kaminsky (wright st. univ.) throw on friday evening for the scrappers vs. batavia. he dominated jamestown on sunday in his professional debut. looking at this kids resume at wright st. university is very impressive, his bb/k ratio over his jr. and sr. seasons is outstanding.

by **TonyIBI** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:43 pm

nolanryan wrote:am looking forward to watching RHP alex kaminsky (wright st. univ.) throw on friday evening for the scrappers vs. batavia. he dominated jamestown on sunday in his professional debut. looking at this kids resume at wright st. university is very impressive, his bb/k ratio over his jr. and sr. seasons is outstanding.

Hopefully we found a diamond in the rough. By the way, welcome to the board.

by **TonyIBI** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:44 pm

Dave9819 wrote:Any update on Toregas?

Nothing yet, though I should hear something soon.

by **dnosco** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:43 pm

I wish the FO would say the same things about MV that they are saying about the AZL team to manage fan expectations and put things into perspective.

Unfortunately, the only thing to say about MV is that it is a bad, bad baseball team. Those wins at the beginning of the year may be the high point of the season.

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