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Scott Lewis question

Postby Hermie13 » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:30 pm

If this has been talked about or anything I apologize...but it's been bugging me lately, especially now that Scott Lewis has won the last open rotation spot for the Tribe this year...

Why was he not listed a top prospect this year? He only had 24 ML innings and 4 starts under his belt. Wasn't called up til September as well (so no 45+ days on the roster).

Meanwhile Aaron Laffey had 9 starts and 49.1 innings under his belt in 2007, yet was ranked the #5 prospect in the Indians system..... :s_dunno

Lewis is eligible for Rookie of the Year this year right? (ok, getting a lil ahead of myself, lol).


Just getting a bit confused on this double-standard.....
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby npc29 » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:45 pm

He was 13th on Tony's list wasn't he?
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby Hermie13 » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:53 pm

npc29 wrote:He was 13th on Tony's list wasn't he?


He was....I was more referring to other sources....was he on BA's then too just not top 10 or something? For some reason I don't remember seeing him on it....maybe i missed him though....apologize if I did...
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby TonyIBI » Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:15 pm

Because he is not a Top 10 prospect.

This is not an indictment on Lewis, but more to the depth and high amount of talent above him. Everyone above him has impact potential, whereas Lewis is more a middle to backend rotation guy. Certainly valuable...just doesn't possess those skills that make a guy a top prospect. Laffey was Top 10 last year because the system was in transition and was weak in top end talent.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby Hermie13 » Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:18 pm

Consigliere wrote:Because he is not a Top 10 prospect.

This is not an indictment on Lewis, but more to the depth and high amount of talent above him. Everyone above him has impact potential, whereas Lewis is more a middle to backend rotation guy. Certainly valuable...just doesn't possess those skills that make a guy a top prospect. Laffey was Top 10 last year because the system was in transition and was weak in top end talent.


O I know he's not a top 10 prospect. For some reason I don't recall him even in their top 30 or anyone else's is what I was getting at.

Again, maybe I missed him in their 11-30 range.....
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby TonyIBI » Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:22 pm

I don't have BAs Handbook handy, but am pretty certain he was in their 11-20 range.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby TonyIBI » Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:26 pm

Sickels had Lewis #10 this year.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby Hermie13 » Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:45 pm

Consigliere wrote:I don't have BAs Handbook handy, but am pretty certain he was in their 11-20 range.


Just checked with a friend actually....he was 21 on their list.

Think I saw a 1-20 list and that's what threw me....again, apologize for what turned out to be a bit of a pointless thread, lol :s_sorry
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby artgold » Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:34 pm

BA had him rated as #16 in 2008, his lack of hard stuff kind of keeps him from breaking higher. I wouldn't sweat it though, if I'm looking at him for potential I can see him being an effective five year major league pitcher, winning 12-15 games a year and keeping us in the game for the majority of his starts.

The problem is that when you kind of throw soft as a young pitcher, you still have a loss of velocity as you age. Then you add in his injury history, and it is tough to get too excited. So if you start off as a bit of a soft tosser, he likely will get hit hard after a few years. However, nobody said he can't be the second coming of Jamie Moyer, but like Lewis Moyer never broke into the top prospect considerations when younger, even got released three times within a two year period.

Subsequently, after all of those times being discarded, he went on to win 212 games (so far) and win a world series game last season for the Phillies.

So, though I like to really drill into this prospect stuff, the key item I can't evaluate is what is between their ears. In many ways, their approach and attitude determines their success.

All indications so far is that this will be a major plus for Lewis, so I suspect he may hold onto his rotation spot.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby Hermie13 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:32 am

I was just confused why the didn't have him listed as a prospect, not about how high he was.....the list i saw was only a top 20. I was wrong and they do have him listed as a prospect still, that was the main question I had.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby webba2000 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:55 am

Considering that he is still a rookie and a prospect, how is he doing?
Will he compete for a job in ST or is he AAA bound for some rehab?
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby TonyIBI » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:43 pm

webba2000 wrote:Considering that he is still a rookie and a prospect, how is he doing?
Will he compete for a job in ST or is he AAA bound for some rehab?
Thank you


Still rehabbing. I believe he will start the season on time, but given all the guys on the 40-man righting for spots and all the starters we have, he has zero chance to make the team this spring. He'll open in C-Bus.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby indianinkslinger » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:09 pm

Consigliere wrote:
webba2000 wrote:Considering that he is still a rookie and a prospect, how is he doing?
Will he compete for a job in ST or is he AAA bound for some rehab?
Thank you


Still rehabbing. I believe he will start the season on time, but given all the guys on the 40-man righting for spots and all the starters we have, he has zero chance to make the team this spring. He'll open in C-Bus.

FWIW, my brother who knows some of Lewis' "friends" has heard that he may never be the pitcher he was.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby nime » Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:59 pm

Any chance he is moving to the pen?

With Putnam moving back to a starter. We need some lefty relievers.
Sowers, Huff aren't relief options imo. Lewis has stuff to be a loogy.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby dazindiansfanuk » Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:45 pm

nime wrote:Any chance he is moving to the pen?

With Putnam moving back to a starter. We need some lefty relievers.
Sowers, Huff aren't relief options imo. Lewis has stuff to be a loogy.


How does Putnam moving back to starter dictate needing more lefty relievers? Putnam is a righty.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby MickS » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:25 pm

Sowers looks almost ideally suited to a middle/long relief/spot starter role to me. He's almost always successful one time through the order. What am I missing?
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby webba2000 » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:04 am

Tony: How's Scott doing?
Will he be able to start the season in the C-bus rotation?

Thanks for the infos
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby TonyIBI » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:57 pm

Lewis is pitching and is expected to be good to go when the season starts. No one is being told for sure where they are going, but I would be surprised if Lewis was not in the opening day C-Bus rotation.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby webba2000 » Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:35 pm

I'm just watching the clippers game on Milb.tv.
Scott looks really awesome. 5IP, 2H, 1ER and 9K.
I'm really happy for him, hope he gets a shot in Cleveland this year.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby martyinnewyork » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:55 pm

Any idea on Lewis' velocity tonight?
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby TonyIBI » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:26 pm

Good for Scotty Lew. Had a long talk with him too while in Columbus, and will have something up on him shortly!
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby webba2000 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:27 am

martyinnewyork wrote:Any idea on Lewis' velocity tonight?

Clippers PBP guy during the broadcast was talking about something in the 87-89 range, but it did look faster to me...and to Loiusville hitters as well :biggrin:
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby cardiackidz » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:30 pm

scott lewis might be one hell of a nice guy but he's just not a big league starter on a winning club.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby Hermie13 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:00 pm

cardiackidz wrote:scott lewis might be one hell of a nice guy but he's just not a big league starter on a winning club.


ha, yeah well we're not a winning club right now :cry:
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby webba2000 » Sat May 15, 2010 4:06 am

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/05/i ... lewis.html

The Indians have released lefthander Scott Lewis, tweets Paul Hoynes of The Cleveland Plain Dealer.


WHAT?????

WHY???


EDIT : I jay saw the discussion in the C-Bus board.
I still do not get it, if he's Ok just trade him, if he's injured just put him on the DL, no?
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby TonyIBI » Sat May 15, 2010 6:43 am

webba2000 wrote:EDIT : I jay saw the discussion in the C-Bus board.
I still do not get it, if he's Ok just trade him, if he's injured just put him on the DL, no?


You can't trade a guy who is done. He may get a look-see elsewhere, but the Indians just decided to move on and no longer considered him a major league option. This is the business side of the game which is unfortunate.
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby webba2000 » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:14 am

Tony:
Any news about Scott Lewis?
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Re: Scott Lewis question

Postby TonyIBI » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:27 am

webba2000 wrote:Tony:
Any news about Scott Lewis?


He's no longer in the org....whether or not he is making a comeback with another team next year I have no idea.
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