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Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby Jake Taylor » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:24 pm

I'm just making a quick little thread here to let everyone post their questions about players that were in our system that have seemed to disappear off the face of the earth.

Mine starts with Justin Hoyman. Is he out of baseball? He was still in the media guide last season, but after three years of injuries I figure he's long gone.
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby MadThinker88 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:45 pm

Yes Justin is out of baseball. He never really recovered from his shoulder surgery. He is listed on the released/ retired list the Tony posted in October 2008.
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby MadThinker88 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:54 pm

For me, its harder to list someone as missing since I go over prospect listing so much.
One I can't place on where he is playing is Gregorio Rosario (the player the Tribe got for Jason Davis).
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby TonyIBI » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:21 am

Yeah, as I wrote in one up my Winter Haven Updates in March, Hoyman retired because he was having trouble coming back from injury and his velo was barely 82 MPH:

http://www.indiansprospectinsider.com/2 ... e-316.html

- Got news Justin Hoyman has called it a career. He reported to camp, but left a few days ago. Just did not have it anymore as injuries caught up with him and his fastball never recovered (reportedly around 82 MPH).


As for Rosario, he is still with the org. He was out in the Instructional League rehabbing an undisclosed injury.
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby Jake Taylor » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:20 am

Sorry about missing that, didn't catch wind of the site until around the All-Star break last year, so I missed some of the early write-ups. Thanks for the news, though. I figured he was gone, but just wanted to make certain.
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby Uncle Rick » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:25 pm

Why did Brian Finegan get cut? He hit .400 in the 2007 CL playoffs, then never played in 2008.
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby TonyIBI » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:55 pm

Uncle Rick wrote:Why did Brian Finegan get cut? He hit .400 in the 2007 CL playoffs, then never played in 2008.


Yeah, sort of a surprise he was cut last spring.....but he always had health issues it seems and with Rivero slotted to play SS in Kinston and Rodriguez at SS in Akron....and Goedert at 2B primarily in Kinston...I guess there wasn't a spot for him. Dunno really. I mean, they went and signed Brandon Chaves and put him at 2B in Akron, a spot Finegan could have played.
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby Uncle Rick » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:19 am

Thanks for the reply, Tony. So did you turn up any more on the (possible) return of Cevette?
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby TonyIBI » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:20 am

Uncle Rick wrote:Thanks for the reply, Tony. So did you turn up any more on the (possible) return of Cevette?


Nothing. But, I am of the belief this was more a standard paper move. He was pretty adamant about retiring when I spoke to him in Frederick last June, and I know that he and the Indians did not see eye to eye on how he was used last year. Heck, he had requested to be released/traded at the end of spring training when he was not put on a full season roster (more players do this than you think, particularly the older guys around for awhile). The Indians didn't want to let him go, so he had no choice but to stay. So, even if he came back, I doubt it will be with the Indians.
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby toledobuck » Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:35 pm

How about Tom Cowley? He was a pretty good pitcher that surprisingly got dumped a year or two ago. I thought his prospects were quite good a few years back and then the Tribe lets him go.....
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby Uncle Rick » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:04 pm

Last i heard he was in low A with Greenville in the Sally League in '07.
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby osueddy » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:34 pm

Where's Bronson Sardinha going this year?
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby MadThinker88 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:03 pm

osueddy wrote:Where's Bronson Sardinha going this year?


I don't think he will be back with the organization this season. Tony spoke about this guy on one of the shows this fall (I asked about him) and indicated that he had been looking for a AAA slot and wasn't happy playing in Akron.

Unless there are injuries, I doubt there will be a slot in Cbus for him this season.
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby TonyIBI » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:56 am

Sardinha is a FA. He'll sign elsewhere. Buffalo is already crowded with outfielders.
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby MadThinker88 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:22 am

Consigliere wrote:Sardinha is a FA. He'll sign elsewhere. Buffalo is already crowded with outfielders.


:s_dunno Who is in the Buffalo outfield???

:s_wink I realize Columbus is full with Crowe, Brantley, LaPorta and others.
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby TonyIBI » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:11 pm

MadThinker88 wrote:
Consigliere wrote:Sardinha is a FA. He'll sign elsewhere. Buffalo is already crowded with outfielders.


:s_dunno Who is in the Buffalo outfield???

:s_wink I realize Columbus is full with Crowe, Brantley, LaPorta and others.


Good Lord. That is the first of many slips I will make this year! :s_rofl
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby martyinnewyork » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:59 pm

Tony - if only it were so...
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby MadThinker88 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:54 pm

From the files of the recently found:
from mlb trade rumors (1/12/09)
Eider Torres (INF) was invited to spring training with the ChiSox.
Jolbert Cabrera (utility) signed a minor league with the Orioles.
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby Hermie13 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:42 am

Uncle Rick wrote:Why did Brian Finegan get cut? He hit .400 in the 2007 CL playoffs, then never played in 2008.


Problem was his OPS at Kinston was under .700 in back-to-back years and he was 25 in 2007. He did play in 2008....with THREE different organizations (Phillies, Nationals, and Pirates)....at age 26, didn't get above AA at any stop......
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Re: Players That Have... Disappeared

Postby TonyIBI » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:45 am

By the way, anyone wondering where Joe Ness is.....he is still in the org. Had shoulder surgery at the end of spring camp last year and missed all last season as a result....spent the last 8-10 months rehabbing and will be reporting to camp in a few weeks.
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