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Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby A.Zajac » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:54 pm

Jonathan (Boston)

Indians took Dillon Howard at 67, and you ranked him 18th. I can assume you think it's a good pick? Why did he slip -- too raw, like you said? Also, two high-upside high schoolers for their first two picks? Are the Indians changing their philosophy?
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Big price tag. Not a reflection of his talent. Lindor's more safe than high-upside but Howard is shoot-for-the-stars. I like Sisco (3rd round) too - 91-93, will show you two above-avg offspeed pitches. And Roberts is the guy at UVA who threw the no-hitter vs GWU - average stuff with command, has a chance to be a back-end guy, good value in the 5th.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Big League Choo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:54 pm

Bryson Myles - very good speed. Ex-TCU football recruit.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby ohiohoo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:56 pm

TitoFrancona wrote:
GeronimoSon wrote:
entertheshoe wrote:I'm not making any comparisons, but I found it interesting to compare the stats between fellow Virginian Danny Hultzen and Will Roberts so far for 2011:

Hultzen: 11-3 1.57 ERA 103 IP 148 K 17 Walks .189 batting avg
Roberts: 11-1 1.61 ERA 95 IP 90 K 12 Walks .204 batting avg


Hultzen was always a weekend pitcher.. Roberts was just converted to a weekend guy.. in college.. that's a pretty significant step...


I would say the K-rate is a pretty telling story about why Hultzen was considered a 1st rd prospect vs Roberts being a 5th rd pick.


Hultzen who is a lefty who throws in the 92-94 range, of course teams would rate him higher based on that fact alone.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:57 pm

Too late. Texas takes Fisher.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby indiansfan055 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:58 pm

Looks like a speedy top of the order guy. Not a lot of power.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby criznit2009 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:58 pm

Won't make a final decision until later but all and all - just not feeling it like I would have hoped. Lets hope some international FA type guys are hopefully pegged as the bats we need. Sure looks like we are gonna have plenty of arms to sort through the next couple of years.

Right now the draft is a C/C-. Im definitely no expert - but definitely not smashed/excited yet. Gonna be interesting to see how crazy is gets in rounds 10 and on.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Tondo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:59 pm

A.Zajac wrote:Big price tag. Not a reflection of his talent. Lindor's more safe than high-upside but Howard is shoot-for-the-stars. I like Sisco (3rd round) too - 91-93, will show you two above-avg offspeed pitches. And Roberts is the guy at UVA who threw the no-hitter vs GWU - average stuff with command, has a chance to be a back-end guy, good value in the 5th.


"Lindor's more safe than high-upside"? Say what?

Obviously like the B.Myles pick....plus plus speed, good bat...nice pick, another J.Henry?
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:00 pm

Run on the high upside guys going on right now.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:02 pm

Tribe drafts the Buckeyes commit.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Big League Choo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:02 pm

Another catcher?
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Tondo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:02 pm

Rocky55 wrote:Tribe drafts the Buckeyes commit.


Any infos on him? Tough sign? Link to scouting report?
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Tondo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:04 pm

Damn, 3B Woodward off the board...he was a bat I liked
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby indiansfan055 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:04 pm

Another catcher. Committed to Ohio State but said hes willing to sign.

Entering Saturday, he was hitting .495 with 14 home runs, 12 doubles, 55 RBIs and 40 runs scored for a 16-19 team, with 25 walks and five strikeouts in 118 at-bats.

"I'm definitely not opposed to signing at all."


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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby entertheshoe » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:04 pm

Tondo wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:Big price tag. Not a reflection of his talent. Lindor's more safe than high-upside but Howard is shoot-for-the-stars. I like Sisco (3rd round) too - 91-93, will show you two above-avg offspeed pitches. And Roberts is the guy at UVA who threw the no-hitter vs GWU - average stuff with command, has a chance to be a back-end guy, good value in the 5th.


"Lindor's more safe than high-upside"? Say what?

Obviously like the B.Myles pick....plus plus speed, good bat...nice pick, another J.Henry?


J Henry if he added on another 50 lbs perhaps
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby A.Zajac » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:05 pm

Love the Haase pick. Will be a tough sign, though!
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:05 pm

entertheshoe wrote:
Tondo wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:Big price tag. Not a reflection of his talent. Lindor's more safe than high-upside but Howard is shoot-for-the-stars. I like Sisco (3rd round) too - 91-93, will show you two above-avg offspeed pitches. And Roberts is the guy at UVA who threw the no-hitter vs GWU - average stuff with command, has a chance to be a back-end guy, good value in the 5th.


"Lindor's more safe than high-upside"? Say what?

Obviously like the B.Myles pick....plus plus speed, good bat...nice pick, another J.Henry?


J Henry if he added on another 50 lbs perhaps

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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby daingean » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:05 pm

indiansfan055 wrote:Another catcher. Committed to Ohio State but said hes willing to sign.


http://www.perfectgame.org/Players/PlayerProfile.aspx?ID=263499
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Big League Choo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:06 pm

Via PG:

Eric Haase is a 2011 C/3B with a 5-11 190 lb. frame from Westland, MI who attends Divine Child. Really stood out! Solid athletic build with present strength. Excellent tools, polished for a HS prospect from a cold weather state. Very strong arm behind the plate, good carry on throws. Soft hands receiving, clean exchange, accurate throws when he doesn't rush, very high level catching tools. Impressive hitting tools with plus bat speed and good power, ball jumps off his bat. Hit several towering home runs during BP, made good adjustments from pitch to pitch against good pitching in games, can make a few small tweaks to become an even better hitter. If he played in an area that were more heavily scouted he would likely be getting first round consideration. Very good student, committed to Ohio State.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:06 pm

Jays take Lopes. I hear he's a tough sign.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby entertheshoe » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:08 pm

A.Zajac wrote:Love the Haase pick. Will be a tough sign, though!


At least if he doesn't sign, the Buckeye fans won't be as upset.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:09 pm

RSux take Kukuk. Saw some good vid on him. How'd you like to have to sign that name?
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby daingean » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:10 pm

Rocky55 wrote:RSux take Kukuk. Saw some good vid on him. How'd you like to have to sign that name?


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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:13 pm

daingean wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:RSux take Kukuk. Saw some good vid on him. How'd you like to have to sign that name?


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How do you know when to stop?
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby daingean » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:17 pm

Stephen Tarpley from WWBA.


LHP Stephen Tarpley (2011 Gilbert, AZ) and RHP Dillon Maya (2012 Miami Beach, FL) started things right on the mound for the Royals Baseball Club. Those right things ultimately led to a 3-2 win over the South Florida Elite Squad Friday afternoon.

Tarpley pitched four one-hit innings. He struck out five and touched 91 mph and showed a quick arm, easy effort, some arm-side run and good arm actions.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby danh8 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:18 pm

stoike wrote:
Tondo wrote:Yeah, pretty disappointed to read about his FB velo...maybe he can add some and at least reach Tomlin levels, gotta touch the 90s here and there..would have picked INF Wright, who was drafted some picks later in the 5th

He wasn't on BA's top200 or PG's top331, which is somewhat disppointing...looks like a 8th to 12th rounder

Hard to complain about his production though...and that's the bottom line after all


The BA scouting report said 88-92 FB. Another said high-80s to low 90s. ie..the same thing.

Another thing to consider with the fastball is that he is not even 21 yet, and he needs to add some weight. 195 lbs on a 6'5" kid is SKINNNNY!


If he's got command of three solid pitches, and get's good separation with them he doesn't need to add a bit of velocity on his fastball. Sure, it's nice to have that mid-90's FB, but, it's not what makes a pitcher. Sowers added 3mph and lost everything about him that made him effective as a pitcher. Location and separation.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby criznit2009 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:18 pm

Rocky55 wrote:
daingean wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:RSux take Kukuk. Saw some good vid on him. How'd you like to have to sign that name?


easy to spell

How do you know when to stop?


Is he a SP - cause if he is after nine innings that name could end up pretty long..har har har.. :s_yes :s_biggrin
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:20 pm

I'd like to get Hawtin Buchanan in case we need a tight end.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby elrod enchilada » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:21 pm

Myles, Haase, Tarpley...all great picks. Reflect an aggressive strategy. Just gotta sign them. Love HS picks.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Big League Choo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:23 pm

Jordan Smith - Fundamentally-sound bat, sprays L-D to all fields; + year in D-2 (.382-7-57), 3B in 2011, profiles as 1B/OF.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:23 pm

criznit2009 wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:
daingean wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:RSux take Kukuk. Saw some good vid on him. How'd you like to have to sign that name?


easy to spell

How do you know when to stop?


Is he a SP - cause if he is after nine innings that name could end up pretty long..har har har.. :s_yes :s_biggrin

He should go to Kentucky(UK). nyuk, nyuk, nyuk
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby danh8 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:23 pm

Tondo wrote:
A.Zajac wrote:Big price tag. Not a reflection of his talent. Lindor's more safe than high-upside but Howard is shoot-for-the-stars. I like Sisco (3rd round) too - 91-93, will show you two above-avg offspeed pitches. And Roberts is the guy at UVA who threw the no-hitter vs GWU - average stuff with command, has a chance to be a back-end guy, good value in the 5th.


"Lindor's more safe than high-upside"? Say what?

Obviously like the B.Myles pick....plus plus speed, good bat...nice pick, another J.Henry?


Has a very nice, clean, quick bat as well. Won't show much power with that stroke, but efficiasnt contact guy. Like him. Good selection.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby indiansfan055 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:24 pm

Jordan Smith
A resident of Willmar, Smith is slated to play in the prestigious Cape Cod League this summer with Yarmouth-Dennis.

Looks like a draft and follow perhaps?
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:26 pm

tigers are reading my posts. First Aaron Westlake & now Chad Wright. I hate them.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby daingean » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:27 pm

Rocky55 wrote:tigers are reading my posts. First Aaron Westlake & now Chad Wright. I hate them.


maybe if you post Jeremy Sowers, John Drennan, and Beau Mills they will get in their Tardis and go back in time and draft those gusy. :biggrin:
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:29 pm

daingean wrote:
Rocky55 wrote:tigers are reading my posts. First Aaron Westlake & now Chad Wright. I hate them.


maybe if you post Jeremy Sowers, John Drennan, and Beau Mills they will get in their Tardis and go back in time and draft those gusy. :biggrin:

HEEEY! Great idea. :drinks:
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Big League Choo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:41 pm

I'm a relatively new draft follower, but this draft seems less aggressive than last year.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:44 pm

Jonathan Mayo looks like the cadaverous-looking biker guy from Weird Science.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby daingean » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:46 pm

Rocky55 wrote:Jonathan Mayo looks like the cadaverous-looking biker guy from Weird Science.


I'm thinking Christopher Loyd (Uncle Fester)
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby elrod enchilada » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:49 pm

I think this is a pretty aggressive draft compared to last year. Four HS and a CC player in the top 10. These will all take over-slot to corral, and would make this an impressive start if we got them all.

There have to be a few Roberts-Jeff Johnson types ( like Jordan Cooper and Cole Cook) to sign cheap and fill out the Mahoning Valley roster. But the % of high upside guys is better then last year. Even the college position guys don't give me the Tyler Cannon wasted-pick no-upside vibe. Lowery, Myles and Smith are all intriguing.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Falcons115 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:56 pm

The one guy i really like today is Bryson Miles, you dont see 50 steal's vey often.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Rocky55 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:03 pm

Phils take Tyler Greene. Doubt he signs for 11th Round money. Good player, good tools, bats a little raw.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby elrod enchilada » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:08 pm

Steven Sides.

We are now in the Diego Seastrunk zone: draft a few seniors who will sign for nothing and battle to get out of EST for a year or two before they get released. Let's get this over fast so we can draft a few more legitimate prospects.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby jellis » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:12 pm

elrod enchilada wrote:Steven Sides.

We are now in the Diego Seastrunk zone: draft a few seniors who will sign for nothing and battle to get out of EST for a year or two before they get released. Let's get this over fast so we can draft a few more legitimate prospects.



sides is more than just an arm, look up grant sides legit power arm spec, he is a legit spec
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Big League Choo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:13 pm

Has Burch Smith been drafted again?
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby jellis » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:14 pm

Big League Choo wrote:Has Burch Smith been drafted again?


no which has to make you wonder what is wrong with him
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Tondo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:14 pm

What's wrong with Burch Smith?

Some bats still there that I like : 3B Tanis, C Koemtani, 1B Ard, INF Hinson, 1B/OF Tucker (still there)
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby elrod enchilada » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:20 pm

maybe not. He has some upside. I spoke too soon.
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Tondo » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:23 pm

Some high profile HSlers to gamble on: RHP Maples, LHP Garrett, OF/LHP Camarena, LHP D.Peters
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby jellis » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:31 pm

there goes smith
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Re: Official 2011 MLB Draft thread

Postby Falcons115 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:32 pm

there goes Burch to SD
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