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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Hermie13 » Fri May 13, 2011 12:52 pm

criznit2009 wrote:Anyone else starting to think that Head needs to given a shot this year? Starting to think he might be a better gamble then Huffman - if he keeps this up till mid-June he has to get a shot right? Other than his K's he is putting up some tasty numbers. Would Head have any trade value besides cash - time to do some clearing out in Columbus it just is too crowded and guys who are all ML options.


Thing that hurts Head is age and the fact that he only has 3 walks on the year. Guy is killing the ball but Tribe likes guys that can take a walk. Don't get me wrong, he's a guy I'd love to see get a shot. Hitting .379 against both righties and lefties (though his OBP is actually only .367 against lefties). Leads the IL in batting average and 4th in OPS...

As far as value...other than a throw in for a multiplayer deal, cash is really the best you could hope for.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby homerawayfromhome » Fri May 13, 2011 3:38 pm

Mlbtraderumors is reporting Bubba Bell was traded to the Mets for cash.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby criznit2009 » Fri May 13, 2011 3:48 pm

homerawayfromhome wrote:Mlbtraderumors is reporting Bubba Bell was traded to the Mets for cash.


Seemed like a pretty pointless signing at the time just extra depth... I wonder if we made anything on the deal. would be funny to find out me made $ 13.72 or something like that.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby TonyIBI » Fri May 13, 2011 10:21 pm

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criznit2009 wrote:Anyone else starting to think that Head needs to given a shot this year? Starting to think he might be a better gamble then Huffman - if he keeps this up till mid-June he has to get a shot right? Other than his K's he is putting up some tasty numbers. Would Head have any trade value besides cash - time to do some clearing out in Columbus it just is too crowded and guys who are all ML options.


Thing that hurts Head is age and the fact that he only has 3 walks on the year. Guy is killing the ball but Tribe likes guys that can take a walk. Don't get me wrong, he's a guy I'd love to see get a shot. Hitting .379 against both righties and lefties (though his OBP is actually only .367 against lefties). Leads the IL in batting average and 4th in OPS...

As far as value...other than a throw in for a multiplayer deal, cash is really the best you could hope for.


Problem for Head is he is just not viewed as much of a prospect. He is hitting the crap out of the ball right now, but the general feeling is he will struggle big time at the next level because of his inability as Herm said to take a walk, work counts, etc. He has lots of holes in his swing and can be pitched to.

That all said, he is certainly playing himself into consideration for a minor league deal with another team after this season as I believe off the top of my head he is a MLFA. May get a shot elsewhere as a bit player.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Edible14 » Fri May 13, 2011 11:13 pm

TonyIPI wrote:That all said, he is certainly playing himself into consideration for a minor league deal with another team after this season as I believe off the top of my head he is a MLFA. May get a shot elsewhere as a bit player.


I thought he was a MLFA this last year, so I'm pretty sure he's going to be one this year.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby ClevBuck » Sat May 14, 2011 1:23 am

Here's an interesting prospect to watch for
German SS 17 year old Cavan Cohones verballed to Ohio St batted. 446 last year over seas and had a. 925 fielding percentage. In a 40 yard dash he ran a 4.33 and hit 95 on the radar gun with his throwing shoulder having an injury, most say he never steps foot at Ohio St. The Yankees, Twins and Seattle are very interested. He ran a 60 in 6.40 (Kevin Washington ran a 6.3) he is 6'1 175 from a camp in Cleveland. He also had 27 Stolen bases, he has relatives in Youngstown, Ohio and is from SD, California. He was 1st team all europe, he also had 19 HR. He is pretty much the european bryce harper
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby ClevBuck » Sat May 14, 2011 2:13 am

That was ment for 2011 draft thread
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Hermie13 » Sat May 14, 2011 2:26 pm

TonyIPI wrote:
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criznit2009 wrote:Anyone else starting to think that Head needs to given a shot this year? Starting to think he might be a better gamble then Huffman - if he keeps this up till mid-June he has to get a shot right? Other than his K's he is putting up some tasty numbers. Would Head have any trade value besides cash - time to do some clearing out in Columbus it just is too crowded and guys who are all ML options.


Thing that hurts Head is age and the fact that he only has 3 walks on the year. Guy is killing the ball but Tribe likes guys that can take a walk. Don't get me wrong, he's a guy I'd love to see get a shot. Hitting .379 against both righties and lefties (though his OBP is actually only .367 against lefties). Leads the IL in batting average and 4th in OPS...

As far as value...other than a throw in for a multiplayer deal, cash is really the best you could hope for.


Problem for Head is he is just not viewed as much of a prospect. He is hitting the crap out of the ball right now, but the general feeling is he will struggle big time at the next level because of his inability as Herm said to take a walk, work counts, etc. He has lots of holes in his swing and can be pitched to.

That all said, he is certainly playing himself into consideration for a minor league deal with another team after this season as I believe off the top of my head he is a MLFA. May get a shot elsewhere as a bit player.


Agree with everything here. He's a guy that will be in the MLs eventually....maybe just in a Jonathan Van Every role, but like you said some team out there could use him (NL team?) as a bit player.

Starting to think we should just let Kearns go and give Head a 2 week trial. Worst case he does suck...but then you just DFA him too. Not a guy you really should care if he is claimed (can't see him being claimed anyways). Can't really be much worse than Kearns IMO....
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby TonyIBI » Sat May 14, 2011 9:40 pm

Hermie13 wrote:Starting to think we should just let Kearns go and give Head a 2 week trial. Worst case he does suck...but then you just DFA him too. Not a guy you really should care if he is claimed (can't see him being claimed anyways). Can't really be much worse than Kearns IMO....


Can't believe I am defending Kearns....but while Head may be no worse or could be better offensively than Kearns.....Kearns is 2-3 times the defender that Head is. It's another reason Head hasn't ever been given much of a chance....sure he plays everywhere, just not that great at any one position.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby criznit2009 » Sun May 15, 2011 1:33 am

TonyIPI wrote:
Hermie13 wrote:Starting to think we should just let Kearns go and give Head a 2 week trial. Worst case he does suck...but then you just DFA him too. Not a guy you really should care if he is claimed (can't see him being claimed anyways). Can't really be much worse than Kearns IMO....


Can't believe I am defending Kearns....but while Head may be no worse or could be better offensively than Kearns.....Kearns is 2-3 times the defender that Head is. It's another reason Head hasn't ever been given much of a chance....sure he plays everywhere, just not that great at any one position.


Please don't defend Kearns...Head isn't an option really and compared to Kearns....UGGGH... Kearns wins. Head is strictly a bat, his D is a liabilty for the ML club and would have to be a bench only kinda option. Getting to the point where we have to bring up Phelps, it would be an excellent addition He could start 3-5 games a week if he can hold down 3rd base well enough. Infield was already crowded and then Jrod came back and now Goedert is back. If Head is still steam rolling in mid June, then who knows could help the team or maybe get some cash for the big one.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby indianinkslinger » Sun May 15, 2011 1:52 am

criznit2009 wrote:
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Hermie13 wrote:Starting to think we should just let Kearns go and give Head a 2 week trial. Worst case he does suck...but then you just DFA him too. Not a guy you really should care if he is claimed (can't see him being claimed anyways). Can't really be much worse than Kearns IMO....


Can't believe I am defending Kearns....but while Head may be no worse or could be better offensively than Kearns.....Kearns is 2-3 times the defender that Head is. It's another reason Head hasn't ever been given much of a chance....sure he plays everywhere, just not that great at any one position.


Please don't defend Kearns...Head isn't an option really and compared to Kearns....UGGGH... Kearns wins. Head is strictly a bat, his D is a liabilty for the ML club and would have to be a bench only kinda option. Getting to the point where we have to bring up Phelps, it would be an excellent addition He could start 3-5 games a week if he can hold down 3rd base well enough. Infield was already crowded and then Jrod came back and now Goedert is back. If Head is still steam rolling in mid June, then who knows could help the team or maybe get some cash for the big one.

Since they made the move with goedert, I have wondered if the Indians did it with the idea he could be the Rh option off the bench at 1b, LF and Dh if he hits well and defends adequately. Just a thought.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Hermie13 » Sun May 15, 2011 2:28 pm

TonyIPI wrote:
Hermie13 wrote:Starting to think we should just let Kearns go and give Head a 2 week trial. Worst case he does suck...but then you just DFA him too. Not a guy you really should care if he is claimed (can't see him being claimed anyways). Can't really be much worse than Kearns IMO....


Can't believe I am defending Kearns....but while Head may be no worse or could be better offensively than Kearns.....Kearns is 2-3 times the defender that Head is. It's another reason Head hasn't ever been given much of a chance....sure he plays everywhere, just not that great at any one position.


Well with Grady hurting it makes sense but when he's healthy, you dont' need a defensive whiz that can play LF. Especially since Duncan hasn't been as bad as he was in the past (actually has looked respectable in LF this year).
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Upper Box Woodchuck » Mon May 16, 2011 12:44 pm

Buck recalled to Indians (Sizemore on DL)

I panicked for a moment when the Indy Indians broadcast had the Lonnie Chisenhall graphic up when Chase D'arnaud was batting. I thought "What! We traded Chiz to the Pirates! For what!"

Blue caps again. I'm beginning to think the gray/blue ones aren't even in their lockers.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Upper Box Woodchuck » Mon May 16, 2011 12:46 pm

criznit2009 wrote:
homerawayfromhome wrote:Mlbtraderumors is reporting Bubba Bell was traded to the Mets for cash.


Seemed like a pretty pointless signing at the time just extra depth... I wonder if we made anything on the deal. would be funny to find out me made $ 13.72 or something like that.


Casino vouchers for the Clippers coaching staff when they visit the Bisons. :biggrin:
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Hermie13 » Mon May 16, 2011 12:51 pm

Upper Box Woodchuck wrote:Buck recalled to Indians (Sizemore on DL).


Eligible to come off May 26th...but man, seemed like Acta was pretty optimistic with him as recent as yesterday.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Hermie13 » Mon May 16, 2011 12:58 pm

On the bright side, so far a solid outing from Kluber. 6 innings and only 2 runs on 4 hits. Worked out of a jam there in the 6th with a run in and runner on third with 1 out. Got out of it though preserving the 3-2 lead.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Lloyd Christmas » Thu May 19, 2011 7:38 pm

Kipnis trying to give the Indians a reason to call him up leads off with a HR. Phelps up next...HR. Good stuff
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby TonyIBI » Thu May 19, 2011 11:05 pm

That homer for Phelps his 7th of the year....one shy of the 8 he hit all of last year (a career high too). Late bloomer with the power.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby indianinkslinger » Fri May 20, 2011 3:54 am

TonyIPI wrote:That homer for Phelps his 7th of the year....one shy of the 8 he hit all of last year (a career high too). Late bloomer with the power.

Yeah Tony. As we talked about at ST, Phelps is so much more developed physically than when I saw him in college. I always thought he would hit well enough but the transformation from gap power to HR power is a little surprise to me. IMO his offense and defense put him ahead of Chisenhall when it comes to ML readiness and Kipnis is further behind. Both may still have greater upside but there is no denying Phelps additional power makes a difference.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby criznit2009 » Fri May 20, 2011 10:32 am

Though Phelps success isnt much of a surprise, I think the fact that he is truthfully starting to level the playing field with Kipnis as to who will be our future 2 is surprising. Still early in the season, but with each game Phelps looks more and more likely to seize the opportunity as soon as he gets it. never thought I would say this, but Kipnis has his work cut out for him.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Lloyd Christmas » Fri May 20, 2011 2:00 pm

Hagadone called up
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby MadThinker88 » Fri May 20, 2011 8:33 pm

Lloyd Christmas wrote:Hagadone called up


I think Nick is ready for a greater challenge but we have seen many players altogether skip AAA and go onto the majors. I was hoping he would have gone north on highway, not south.

If there is a need here in the majors, I hope Nick gets called up. He is already burning one of his option years.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby dazindiansfanuk » Fri May 20, 2011 8:57 pm

A 7 inning complete game shutout for McAllister tonight to improve to 7-0, 2.42ERA

Went 7IP, 3H, 0R, 0B, 7K as the Clippers won 3-0.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby stoike » Fri May 20, 2011 11:41 pm

Question for Tony on McAllister; When you were posting the expanded box scores during spring training, I noticed that McAllister was shown with an average fastball of 93 and topping out at 95. I would have written it off as a crazy speed gun, but all the other velocities seemed dead on, AND McAllister had 9 ks and threw 7 shutout innings. Is he throwing a bit harder this year, or was that an exceptional performance? Thanks!!!
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby TonyIBI » Fri May 20, 2011 11:43 pm

McAllister has been amazing this year, and yet more pitching depth for the Indians.

Heard the Indians are strongly considering Hagadone for bullpen in Cleveland sometime later in the year. Needs to show consistency, progress, and performance in Columbus and he could be ML option by All Star break if the need is that great.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby TonyIBI » Fri May 20, 2011 11:50 pm

stoike wrote:Question for Tony on McAllister; When you were posting the expanded box scores during spring training, I noticed that McAllister was shown with an average fastball of 93 and topping out at 95. I would have written it off as a crazy speed gun, but all the other velocities seemed dead on, AND McAllister had 9 ks and threw 7 shutout innings. Is he throwing a bit harder this year, or was that an exceptional performance? Thanks!!!


Not throwing harder from what I know. One outing in spring he touched 94 MPH, but he mostly averaged 88-92 MPH and is still doing that.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby stoike » Sat May 21, 2011 12:16 am

TonyIPI wrote:
stoike wrote:Question for Tony on McAllister; When you were posting the expanded box scores during spring training, I noticed that McAllister was shown with an average fastball of 93 and topping out at 95. I would have written it off as a crazy speed gun, but all the other velocities seemed dead on, AND McAllister had 9 ks and threw 7 shutout innings. Is he throwing a bit harder this year, or was that an exceptional performance? Thanks!!!


Not throwing harder from what I know. One outing in spring he touched 94 MPH, but he mostly averaged 88-92 MPH and is still doing that.


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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby danh8 » Sat May 21, 2011 12:57 am

criznit2009 wrote:Though Phelps success isnt much of a surprise, I think the fact that he is truthfully starting to level the playing field with Kipnis as to who will be our future 2 is surprising. Still early in the season, but with each game Phelps looks more and more likely to seize the opportunity as soon as he gets it. never thought I would say this, but Kipnis has his work cut out for him.


I, much like you, just keep being pleasantly surprised by Cord Phelps. Through hard work, he has continued to develop his game in all phases, far beyond where I ever thought he could. But, baseball is a skills game more than any other, and he's successfully developed at a faster pace, and well beyond anyone's expectations.

I never thought I'd be saying this, but I believe he's moved ahead of Kipnis as our possible future 2nd baseman on the team. Which shocks me, personally. The added power this season, and versatility throughout the infield, again, surprising.

Didn't think he had the athleticism to play SS, but shows that he's passable even there...

Jerad Head is another that you just shake your head in disbelief.

One of the great things about this game is you have these stories that come along unexpectedly in player development.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby danh8 » Sat May 21, 2011 1:04 am

TonyIPI wrote:McAllister has been amazing this year, and yet more pitching depth for the Indians.

Heard the Indians are strongly considering Hagadone for bullpen in Cleveland sometime later in the year. Needs to show consistency, progress, and performance in Columbus and he could be ML option by All Star break if the need is that great.


Both Hagadone and McCallister were breakout possibilities I had listed for this season. Hagadone simply for coming off his 1st year post surgery, and McCallister for having the patience needed to take a step back last year, and develop and alter a few pitches in order to make the next step to the majors.

Both seem to have made the jumps in performance I had hoped to see. Quite frankly, I think both are ready to show what they can do at the major league level... it won't be long.

I also anticipate us making some moves that take pitching depth within the organization to bring in some offensive weapons via trade at some point down the road.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby danh8 » Sat May 21, 2011 1:07 am

TonyIPI wrote:
stoike wrote:Question for Tony on McAllister; When you were posting the expanded box scores during spring training, I noticed that McAllister was shown with an average fastball of 93 and topping out at 95. I would have written it off as a crazy speed gun, but all the other velocities seemed dead on, AND McAllister had 9 ks and threw 7 shutout innings. Is he throwing a bit harder this year, or was that an exceptional performance? Thanks!!!


Not throwing harder from what I know. One outing in spring he touched 94 MPH, but he mostly averaged 88-92 MPH and is still doing that.


He's shown slightly more velocity, but where I've seen the greatest improvement is just the overall command of his secondary pitches, which have made his fastball all the more effective. He's had more success shwoing the fastball off the plate, and his out pitches have been predominantly his change/curve..
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby homerawayfromhome » Sat May 21, 2011 10:27 am

I'm really starting to like McAllister, thought he was a steal from the Yanks pitching at a high level until last yr's struggles pitching in AAA at age 22. McAllister has recovered well from the down season and is really showing he's almost ready.

I was just thinking about Nick Hagadone success this yr. Would the Tribe really put three lefty's in the pen together? Hagadone's potential as a shutdown arm though would be as good as adding a vet to the staff if he continues to pitch to his potential. I would guess it's highly likely w/o a lefty in the rotation it would provide a very interesting bullpen option ecspecially IF the the Tribe makes it into the offseason. The tribe would really be able to go righty lefty with the matchups.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby MadThinker88 » Sat May 21, 2011 10:34 am

homerawayfromhome wrote:I was just thinking about Nick Hagadone success this yr. Would the Tribe really put three lefty's in the pen together? Hagadone's potential as a shutdown arm though would be as good as adding a vet to the staff if he continues to pitch to his potential.


I recall there being 3 lefties in the pen during 95 - Paul A/ Alan Embree/ Jim Poole.
Just noting that for people.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby jellis » Sat May 21, 2011 12:07 pm

MadThinker88 wrote:
homerawayfromhome wrote:I was just thinking about Nick Hagadone success this yr. Would the Tribe really put three lefty's in the pen together? Hagadone's potential as a shutdown arm though would be as good as adding a vet to the staff if he continues to pitch to his potential.


I recall there being 3 lefties in the pen during 95 - Paul A/ Alan Embree/ Jim Poole.
Just noting that for people.


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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby homerawayfromhome » Sat May 21, 2011 1:35 pm

Jim Poole was a good pick up off the scrap heap. There's a lot of similarities between the 2 teams it seems.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby criznit2009 » Sat May 21, 2011 2:15 pm

I know Jerad Head is primarly a OF but gets described as a jack of all trades a lot. Could he possibly play any 2nd or 3rd too if called up?
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Chip Davis » Sat May 21, 2011 2:47 pm

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TonyIPI wrote:That homer for Phelps his 7th of the year....one shy of the 8 he hit all of last year (a career high too). Late bloomer with the power.

Yeah Tony. As we talked about at ST, Phelps is so much more developed physically than when I saw him in college. I always thought he would hit well enough but the transformation from gap power to HR power is a little surprise to me. IMO his offense and defense put him ahead of Chisenhall when it comes to ML readiness and Kipnis is further behind. Both may still have greater upside but there is no denying Phelps additional power makes a difference.


Strength is always the last to develop. Look at power lifting competitions, most in the winners circle are mid to upper 30's and some in their 40's. This is what makes me a little more patient with prospects, most don't develop until late 20's while some will develop a little earlier. Hell a lot of players don't stop growing until their late 20's. To me a guy in his mid 20's is just starting to realize his potential physically and mature mentally and this seems to be where a lot of people want to cast them aside.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby indianinkslinger » Sat May 21, 2011 6:20 pm

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TonyIPI wrote:That homer for Phelps his 7th of the year....one shy of the 8 he hit all of last year (a career high too). Late bloomer with the power.

Yeah Tony. As we talked about at ST, Phelps is so much more developed physically than when I saw him in college. I always thought he would hit well enough but the transformation from gap power to HR power is a little surprise to me. IMO his offense and defense put him ahead of Chisenhall when it comes to ML readiness and Kipnis is further behind. Both may still have greater upside but there is no denying Phelps additional power makes a difference.


Strength is always the last to develop. Look at power lifting competitions, most in the winners circle are mid to upper 30's and some in their 40's. This is what makes me a little more patient with prospects, most don't develop until late 20's while some will develop a little earlier. Hell a lot of players don't stop growing until their late 20's. To me a guy in his mid 20's is just starting to realize his potential physically and mature mentally and this seems to be where a lot of people want to cast them aside.

Absolutely agree Chip. You weren't around for the great debates I had about Phelps with Voldemort. Phelps had decent bat speed in College but strictly "aluminum" power, mostly because he hit line drives with little loft and backspin. Without looking at my old notes, i seem to recall he projected more power from the right side. Late last year i noticed some subtle changes is his stroke, especially from the left side. Checked it out thoroughly in ST and he now gets a better turn with increased loft and bat speed to go along with the improved strength.

He is not my only organizational miss in that regard. I am constantly reminded of a conversation Art Gold and I had at ST when we saw Michael Brantley for the first time after the trade. Both of us felt that the Indians would be fortunate indeed if Brantley had 10 HR power in the majors and 15 was his absolute max. And we both felt he would be as big as he is. I did not see his growth to include the ability to loft be ball against RHP which he has developed. Both Art and i knew he had great bat speed. If Brantley learns to do the same to LHP, then i would say that both Art and I underestimated him. Time will tell for both. :pleasantry:
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Edible14 » Sat May 21, 2011 7:35 pm

You have to figure that Goedert, McBride or Weglarz have to be on their way up to AAA at this point, with all the recent promotion. Only problem being that none of them play CF.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby GeronimoSon » Sat May 21, 2011 9:15 pm

So who's on the welcoming committee to greet Nick Hagacone to the Clippers?
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby TonyIBI » Sat May 21, 2011 10:08 pm

criznit2009 wrote:I know Jerad Head is primarly a OF but gets described as a jack of all trades a lot. Could he possibly play any 2nd or 3rd too if called up?


Head is not a very good defender, but is passable at the corners in the OF and INF. He can also be used in a pinch at SS, 2B, CF and even C. He can play every position, and for one game be fine. Not everyday though.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby TonyIBI » Sat May 21, 2011 10:09 pm

Edible14 wrote:You have to figure that Goedert, McBride or Weglarz have to be on their way up to AAA at this point, with all the recent promotion. Only problem being that none of them play CF.


Goedert and Weglarz will certainly be up in COlumbus very soon. Also don't forget about Nick Johnson.

McBride is staying in Akron. Low priority guy and too many other guys above him.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Chip Davis » Sat May 21, 2011 11:36 pm

I'll go out on a limb and say McBride won't stay in Akron for long. It's hard for me to comprehend how such a good defensive catcher at one point can't play the field, sorry, I'm not buying it. The kid absolutely destroys mistakes over the plate, probably better than anyone in the organization except for maybe Weglarz. A little more patience or a little better strike zone judgement sends this kid into orbit, offensively speaking. He could be the right handed power bat the team needs if that OBP goes up a tic or two. Then again he could peeter out, but I'm going with the 1st scenario. I picked him for my breakout candidate and I'm sticking with him.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby petes999 » Sun May 22, 2011 6:56 am

Chip ... just remember that a mistake hitter does well in the minors but turns out to be a Marte in the majors because there are fewer mistakes and they find your holes and keep pounding you. I was on the McBride bandwagon but not so much anymore. In his third year of AA, he should be a .280 to .300 hitter and he is sitting at .250. And, I saw him at one game at 1B and wasn't to impressed for being a good defensive catcher ... I scratched my head as well as he couldn't smoother a ball to him which I would have expected out of a catcher and his training.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby TonyIBI » Sun May 22, 2011 9:46 am

I'm about as big of a fan as McBride as you will find. But, that having been said, he's no longer much of a prospect. If he had any ML value at all to the Indians they wouldn't have buried him at Akron and he would be in Columbus. THe guys who have value are pushed upward or get lots of chances. Actions speak louder than words.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby dazindiansfanuk » Sun May 22, 2011 3:01 pm

Steven Wright called up to Columbus.... not sure if it's just an emergency situation.

Has come on in relief in the 6th inning.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby MadThinker88 » Sun May 22, 2011 3:16 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:Steven Wright called up to Columbus.... not sure if it's just an emergency situation.
Has come on in relief in the 6th inning.


With all the various call-ups to Cleveland, injuries and other things, keep things straight in Cbus has likely been a challenge.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Edible14 » Sun May 22, 2011 8:48 pm

petes999 wrote:Chip ... just remember that a mistake hitter does well in the minors but turns out to be a Marte in the majors because there are fewer mistakes and they find your holes and keep pounding you.


That was pretty much the thought on Goedert last year IIRC. Similar reasoning has tried to explain why guys like LaPorta and Duncan don't translate to the show as well.

As for Wright, not surprising to see him up given his age. I was wondering if they would move him back to the bullpen, or if being a knuckleballer now would mean that he could be a starting option.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby TonyIBI » Mon May 23, 2011 9:41 am

I believe the Wright call to Columbus is short term. Not a 100% on that, but I think he is heading back to KIN/LC to work in the rotation here very soon.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby TonyIBI » Mon May 23, 2011 10:09 am

Langwell and Popham promoted to Columbus. Popham is obviously a short term option there, but Langwell may stick. Good for him.

Looks like a big day of movement in the system with pitchers is coming.
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Re: 2011 Columbus Clippers Thread

Postby Edible14 » Mon May 23, 2011 12:46 pm

TonyIPI wrote:Langwell and Popham promoted to Columbus. Popham is obviously a short term option there, but Langwell may stick. Good for him.

Looks like a big day of movement in the system with pitchers is coming.


Surprised it's Langwell instead of CC Lee, Berger or Espino. Actually, I've been wondering why Espino doesn't take the long relief/spot starter role in AAA that Martinez has. Is he getting more appearances in Akron this way?
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