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MLB News and Rumors: Cano meets with the Mariners

MLB News and Rumors: Cano meets with the Mariners
December 5, 2013
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With the offseason now in full spring, news will continue to become more and more frequent. In this MLB News and Notes segment, I will be giving occasional reports on the latest news and rumors throughout the MLB. I also will try to tweet news and rumors as I see them, so feel free to follow me on Twitter: @ajnicholsIBI.

Here are the stories from Wednesday, December 4th.

Top Stories

  • According to Kevin Kernan of the New York Post, Robinson Canomet with Mariners officials on Tuesday, and Kernan's source told him that the meeting went “very well.” Another report from Anthony McCarron of the New York Daily News says that Seattle has already topped the Yankees offer for Cano. McCarron's source told him that Mariners are making a pitch to Cano that he can either be a Yankee legend or be a baseball legend by helping the Mariners win their first World Series title.

  • Another former Yankee, Curtis Granderson may be staying in New York, but possibly as a Met. Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com reported that talks between Granderson and the Mets were intensifying Tuesday night.

Other News and Notes

  • Paul Konerko will return to the White Sox for one final season. Konerko will a receive a one-year, $2.5 million deal, with $1 million of that amount being deferred to 2021.

  • Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says the Royals, Rays, and Dodgers have all shown interest in free agent second baseman Mark Ellis.

  • Rosenthal also reported that the Orioles are willing to part with their first round pick in order to sign a power bat, as long as they feel it would be a good deal for the team.

  • Jayson Stark of ESPN.com reported that James Loney has emerged as a top target for the Pirates. However, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times says the Rays also view Loney as their top first base target, after Loney spent last season in Tampa. Yahoo's Jeff Passan says that Loney is looking for a three-year deal in the $27-30 million range.

  • Passan also reported that the Mariners, Dodgers, Angels, Pirates, Rangers, Diamondbacks, and Blue Jays have all shown interest in David Price and believe they have the prospects to entice Tampa.

  • ESPN's Jerry Crasnick says the Diamondbacks are motivated to pull off a trade for a true ace pitcher. While Rosenthal tweeted that Arizona and Oakland recently discussed a trade that would have sentYoenis Cespedes to Arizona for Tyler Skaggs, A.J. Pollock, and more. Rosenthal said the two teams have begun to shy away from this trade idea now.

  • Crasnick also tweeted that the Cubs will continue to aggressively shop Jeff Samardzija at next week's Winter Meetings.

  • Lefty reliever Wesley Wright agreed to a one-year, $1.425 million deal with the Cubs, according to USA Today's Bob Nightengale.

User Comments

Hermie13
December 6, 2013 - 8:51 AM EST
@Willie

Yes on going after Samardzija.

Yes on checking in on Price but ultimately I think it would cost Lindor, Salazar, Bauer, and Ramirez...and very likely more. Possibly Brantley, Lindor, Salazar, and another spec. Love Price and would make our rotation very good but just don't think we can give up what it'll take. Other teams can trump our offer too.
Willie
December 6, 2013 - 12:06 AM EST
Should the Indians go after David Price or Jeff Samardzija? Price would be the more costly of the two, but man would he be good in the rotation.

As for Brett Anderson, I think I'd offer Vinnie Pestano straight up. That would be a net addition of $6.5 M in salary based on Pestano's probable arbitration amount. I've seen this kid pitch, before the recent injuries, and man could he. Tons of potential, but he's a high risk too. IF the Tribe could add another SP in addition to Anderson, and move some salary, I would be good with that.
shy
December 5, 2013 - 9:45 PM EST
A couple weeks ago I saw the Indians at 28-1 and the Royals at 35-1 to win the World Series. I think the Indians are slightly underrated and the Royals vastly. Who in baseball has a scarier bullpen than Herrera, Collins, Crow and Holland? And Duffy is healthy- he's a very tough lefty. When you add him to Shields, Vargas and Ventura in the starting rotation most opponents will find it tough sledding in any given series. Hosmer I believe has finally emerged as one of the premier first baseman in the A.L. and Alex Gordon, Billy Butler and Aoki would have the highest combined batting average of any outfield in the division. Aoki is only making a couple million a year- a real value- and the Royals lost a good lefty pitching prospect in Will Smith to get him, but the thing about the Royals is their farm system is perennially deep and rich. All the teams in the division will be better this year, based on moves already made- and that includes the White Sox and Twins as well. My fear is Antonetti does not really measure the competition- he's never been good at it in my opinion- and he may be content with what he had last year- minus Kazmir and Jiminez. That's not going to get it, Francona is a very good manager, but he's not an alchemist. The Indians only have a half dozen pro prospect at this point. Bean is ready to deal lefty Brett Anderson who has Kazmir stuff. a reasonable contract and is only 25. but but he wants Cody Anderson and Jose Ramirez back. or Jesus Aguilar. That would be kinda sad, but the Indians don't have that much depth in the minors that other teams find attractive.
Walter
December 5, 2013 - 8:43 PM EST
I'm assuming with no facts to back it up, the teams that might have enquired about Masterson are probably the same teams pursuing Price and Samardzija.
Willie
December 5, 2013 - 8:15 PM EST
There was a rumor teams had called for Masterson, but no names were linked with that report. Overall, it was vague, someone's called checking in. That's a pretty safe assumption. IF Cano goes to Seattle might ACab be an option for teams wooing Cano?

Since the Tribe missed out on Mujica, curious who might be next on their list. But a few names we could be hearing more of Grant Balfour, Joaquin Benoit, John Axford, Jose Veras, Ryan Webb. I'm not a Benoit fan, but any of the other 4 right price is ok by me. Webb and Axford would come with three years of control as arb. eligible candidates. I'd speculate Balfours price might still be pretty high, but the mkt has begun to thin out a bit.

I think Michael Brantley might be a surprise trade candidate for the Tribe. IF the Tribe did make him available for a controllable SP I think they would get some decent offers.
Walter
December 5, 2013 - 6:52 PM EST
There are rumors from MLB network that the Mariners have offered Cano a 10 year contract for 230M. If this true do the Mariners go for David Price from the Rays? Is there teams interested in Masterson? Just throwing that last question out there.
Hermie13
December 5, 2013 - 5:24 PM EST
Royals starters' groundball rates last season:

Shields - 41.6%
Vargas - 40.2%
Guthrie - 42.9%
Ventura - 48.9% (though just a 0.92 GO/AO in the minors)
Davis - 40.5%

I just don't see why you put Aoki in CF and hurt your defense there...then put Beltran in RF...really hurting your defense there. They had one of the best OF defenses in baseball last year....substituting Cain in CF and Lough in RF for Aoki and Beltran.... Offensively an upgrade for sure...but defensively...yikes.
Jim
December 5, 2013 - 4:20 PM EST
You have to wonder if the Royals are taking the approach that I mentioned about a month ago in Corner of Carnegie...

They had a team similar in many way to the Indians, maybe not in make-up, but in level, and realized that their cost-effective plan wasn't working.

I could see a team like the Royals with their history and in a town that would likely support them taking steps to move up a level. If the Royals truly are ahead of Cleveland at this point, and I wouldn't disagree...

Then adding Beltran, a former Royal...and allowing him to retire there, would be a massive coup on paper in many ways.

Of course, they averaged less per game than the Indians...so what do I know...

Hermie13
December 5, 2013 - 3:32 PM EST
Royals are a team that worry me but also wonder if they may be done.

I have their payroll at $89.5M right now. How do they fit Beltran at 3yr/$48M?? Even if they move Butler's $8M 2014 salary, they still puts them over $95M in 2014...that after having a payroll of $81.8M in 2013, highest in team history and an increase of over $17M from 2012.

If the Royals are hellbent on adding Beltran...I'd imagine they'd have to move Butler, Hochevar and probably another pen arm.


If they are done, I do think they have passed the Tribe...though with another move or two I think the Tribe can beat them. Think any one of the Tigers, Royals, Indians though could win this division. Think the Twins are capable of 78-80 wins this year even (go ahead and make fun if you want but I like the offseason they have had and the young kids they have coming up).
Tony
December 5, 2013 - 2:32 PM EST
Michael, if you ask me, the Royals have already passed the Indians based on what has been done to date this offseason. Royals only lose one rotation guy (Santana) and have added Vargas. Indians have lost two rotation guys (Jimenez and Kazmir) and have yet to add an arm. The Royals have no backend pen issues since all are returning and they have a very deep pen while the Indians have some depth but no proven guys returning in backend of the pen. The Indians still may be better with the lineup. Will be interesting to see what other lineup upgrades the Royals make and what pitching additions the Indians make. The Royals certainly have the advantage this offseason of few key guys becoming free agents.
MT88 in WI
December 5, 2013 - 2:03 PM EST
Keep this hot stove going, it bitter cold outside here. Noticed the Royals picked up Aoki from the brewers for willie smith. I'm a little surprised that the Royals didn't have to give up more. Good get by Royals, especially if Aoki moves to CF and they pick up something else for RF. holding onto 2nd for the Tribe is getting more difficult.
Willie
December 5, 2013 - 1:34 PM EST
Tony, I agree, the a Tribe is very good at keeping trade rumors close to vest. Interesting to see what they will be doing, and who they are linked to into discussion. As quite as they appear, I have a feeling there's a lot of internal chatter going on. Looking over trade discussions with other clubs, weighing the best deals. I wouldn't be surprised to see them pull off a cpl moves almost simultaneously.

I like Mujica but I can't see the Tribe trying to win a bidding war for him, but I think they can 'win' a few guys with an option yr and / or a small buyout.

I would have liked Wesley Wright at $1.425 M, but as Clay pointed out, Tony Sipp might be a cheaper similar option. As I have mentioned there are other alternatives, Jose Mijares could probably be had for a similar or cheaper price.
Clay
December 5, 2013 - 1:31 PM EST
I agree Tony. Right now I just think teams are a little to excited to be handing out some of these contracts right now.

As far as Mujica, like I posted in the boards, a chance to win a World Series and get paid is hard to compete with no matter how competitive the offer was.
Hermie13
December 5, 2013 - 1:25 PM EST
Mujica's WHIPs the last 4 seasons:

0.933, 1.026, 1.041, 1.005...

Mujica > Joe Smith, plus has more closing experience. God I hate Boston...

We paid Perez $7M last year...but 2 years and $9.5M too much for Mujica?!?
Tony
December 5, 2013 - 1:03 PM EST
Another one bits the dust. I know some here were interested in Mujica. I had mild interest, but not at about $5M per for two years.

I am really getting the sense the Indians are going to wait it out and see who is left when the dust settles. There could be a lot of interesting relief and starting pitching options left in free agency once everyone else is done splurging. I also still feel like the Indians are silently active in some interesting trade opportunities, some of which will begin to come to light as the winter meetings start and progress.
Clay
December 5, 2013 - 1:01 PM EST
According to Bastian, Indians had an offer out to Mujica. Move on to the next one.
Nick
December 5, 2013 - 12:57 PM EST
Mujica to Boston, 2 yr for 9.5 mill
Clay
December 5, 2013 - 10:51 AM EST
That should have read "5th spot in the rotation"
Clay
December 5, 2013 - 10:50 AM EST
Damn just after I wrote yesterday about there hasn't been a whole lot the Indians should have been in the discussions of, Wesley Wright inks that kind of contract.

To be fair, Tony Sipp could be had on a minor league deal and "could" bring value as the second lefty behind Scrabble.

Also Jerry Crasnick tweeted that Feldman is looking for a 3 year 30 million deal. Made me laugh.

Anyway, here's to plenty of trade rumors to fill the 5th spot in the pen!
Tony
December 5, 2013 - 9:37 AM EST
Getting closer and closer to the Winter Meetings. Very interested to start hearing and seeing some things that kind of give a clue regarding the Indians offseason plan and just exactly what kind of financial situation they are in.
Willie
December 5, 2013 - 8:49 AM EST
Wesley Wright was a good signing for the Cubs, I would have liked to see the Indians get him for that price. Wright was non-tendered Monday by the Rays, that's a pretty quick signing by the Cubs.

I'd love to see the Indians get RHRP Ryan Webb, who was non-tendered by the Marlins. Webb was only projected to make $1.5M by mlbtraderumors.com in his first yr of arbitration. Webb is coming off a yr which he posted a 2.91 era in 80 IP and 60+ appearances.

It will be curious who the Tribe will be linked to at the Winter mtgs. I think we could hear rumors linking any of Bourn, ACab, Stubbs and Brantley in possible trades.

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