2014 Indians Organizational Depth Chart
As spring training gets underway, here is an updated Cleveland Indians depth chart for the 2014 season and where players are "projected" to be assigned from Cleveland all the way down to extended spring training.
We will continue to update this listing as moves are made this spring and throughout the season with the addition, subtraction, promotion, demotion, etc of players. It will go from a "projected" depth chart to a true depth chart once rosters are officially announced at the end of spring training. This chart can easily be referenced by clicking the "Depth Chart" link in the nav bar below the site header.
Note, this is a projection based on some insight into where guys will be assigned, but as always, these are not concrete and subject to change. While it is pretty easy to fill in the first three or four starting pitchers or the first three or four relievers at any level, it gets quite fuzzy after that - especially the lower you go in the system where configuring the bullpen at High-A Carolina and especially Low-A Lake County is a process and a lot of guesses based on inside knowledge. The bench roles and some starting roles can also be difficult to determine. Also, injuries this spring will factor heavily into things.
Bottom line, this should be viewed simply as a guideline to see where guys are pegged to start the 2014 season. The chart will be fluid because there are so many non-roster major league invites which could open at Triple-A Columbus and thus push players back with a ripple effect on down to Low-A. This listing will be updated during spring training as new information is acquired beyond any roster moves, and will be updated during the season as moves are made.
The players with a (+) are in a projected piggyback starting situation. A piggyback situation is where two starters split a game with one going five innings to start the game and the other going four innings to finish it, and then the next time out the starter who finished the game gets to start and goes five innings, etc. Also, the (*) means the pitcher is left-handed. Also some positions have no player listed. These are positions where I expect a player to be "pushed back" a level to allow for a veteran non-roster invite to make the Triple-A roster.
Last updated: March 2, 2014
|C||Yan Gomes||Luke Carlin||Tony Wolters||Eric Haase||Francisco Mejia|
|1B||Nick Swisher||Jesus Aguilar||Jerrud Sabourin||Joe Sever||Nellie Rodriguez|
|2B||Jason Kipnis||David Adams||Joe Wendle||Todd Hankins||Claudio Bautista|
|SS||Asdrubal Cabrera||Justin Sellers||Francisco Lindor||Erik Gonzalez||Dorssys Paulino|
|3B||Carlos Santana||Lonnie Chisenhall||Giovanny Urshela||Leo Castillo||James Roberts|
|LF||Michael Brantley||Nyjer Morgan||Bryson Myles||LeVon Washington||Jorge Martinez|
|CF||Michael Bourn||Matt Carson||Tyler Naquin||Logan Vick||Clint Frazier|
|RF||David Murphy||Carlos Moncrief||Jordan Smith||Luigi Rodriguez||Anthony Santander|
|DH||Jason Giambi||Bryan LaHair||Jake Lowery||Jeremy Lucas||Grant Fink|
|C||Roberto Perez||Alex Monsalve||Alex Lavisky||Martin Cervenka|
|INF||Mike Aviles||Ryan Rohlinger||Ronny Rodriguez||Yhoxian Medina||Paul Hendrix|
|OF||Ryan Raburn||Tim Fedroff||Tyler Holt||Cody Ferrell||Nick Hamilton|
|SP||Justin Masterson||Josh Tomlin||Cody Anderson||Dylan Baker||Luis Lugo|
|SP||Danny Salazar||Trevor Bauer||Will Roberts||Ryan Merritt*||Caleb Hamrick|
|SP||Corey Kluber||T.J. House*||Joseph Colon||Elvis Araujo*||Dace Kime|
|SP||Zach McAllister||Tyler Cloyd||Matt Packer*||Shawn Morimando*||Mitch Brown|
|SP||Carlos Carrasco||Travis Banwart||Brett Brach+||Adam Plutko||Kenny Mathews*+|
|MR||C.C. Lee||Nick Hagadone*||Jordan Cooper+||Luis DeJesus||Cole Sulser+|
|MR||Josh Outman||Giovanni Soto*||AAA pushback||Jacob Lee||Carlos Melo|
|MR||Blake Wood||Bryan Price||Bryce Stowell||Louis Head||Anderson Polanco*|
|MR||Vinnie Pestano||Scott Barnes*||Trey Haley||Nick Pasquale||Alexis Paredes|
|MR||Marc Rzepczynski*||Austin Adams||Kyle Crockett*||Luis Morel||Matt Whitehouse*|
|MR||Cody Allen||Colt Hynes*||Shawn Armstrong||Felix Sterling||Ben Heller|
|MR||Bryan Shaw||J.C. Ramirez||Enosil Tejeda||D.J. Brown||Geoff Davenport*|
|CL||John Axford||Preston Guilmet||Jeff Johnson||Francisco Valera||Trevor Frank|
|DL||Frank Herrmann||Matt Capps||Mike Rayl*||Mason Radeke||Breily Puerta|
|DL||Jose Ramirez||Clayton Cook||Shao-Ching Chiang|
|Extras in consideration|
|Shaun Marcum||Mike Zagurski||Robert Whitenack||Josh Martin||Sean Brady|
|Aaron Harang||Adam Abraham||Anthony Gallas||Benny Suarez||Harold Guerrero*|
|Elliot Johnson||Chun Chen||Gabriel Arias||Charlie Valerio||Joel Mejia|
|David Aardsma||Tyler Sturdevant||Justin Toole||Cody Penny||Josh McAdams|
|Scott Atchison||Kyle Davies||Grant Sides||Juan Romero|
|Matt Treanor||J.D. Reichenbach*||Kerry Doane|
|Audy Ciriaco||Jack Wagoner||Kieran Lovegrove|
|D. Cooper (DFA)||Jimmy Stokes||Manuel Boscan|
|Manuel Carmona||Robel Garcia|
|Michael Peoples||Robbie Aviles|
|Robert Nixon||Sicnarf Loopstok|
|Extended Spring Training|
|Alejando Izzaguire||Erlin Cerda||Jose Nina||Mike Giuffre||Silento Sayles|
|Anthony Vizcaya||Francisco Lopez||Jose Zapata||Mitch Nilsson||Takuya Tsuchida|
|Brian Ruiz||Francisco Miguel||Juan De La Cruz||Naoki Hashimoto||Thomas Pannone*|
|Carlos Diaz*||Garrett Smith||Juan Santana||Ordomar Valdez||Thomas White|
|Casey Shane||Gerald Bautista||Junior Soto||Patric Tolentino||Victor Cabral|
|Cortland Cox||Grofi Cruz||Justin Garcia||Rafael Homblert||Victor DeJesus|
|Daniel Gomez||Hector Caro||Kyle Bellows||Ramon Rodriguez||Wander Beras*|
|Dillon Howard||Ivan Castillo||Luis Gomez*||Ramon Tineo*||Willi Castro|
|D'Vone McClure||Johan Puello||Martin Alcantara||Ranier Florez||Yoiber Marquina|
|Edward Estrella||Jordan Milbrath||Miguel Eladio||Shane Rowland||Yonathan Mendoza|
|Emmanuel Tapia||Leandro Linares||Ben Shorto|
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He did have a successful beginning to his career in rookie ball last year in AZL.
For what it's worth, Sisco seemed to hit a wall mid-season 2013 with an ERA of 3.00 thru 66 IP only to finish with an ERA of 4.86 thru 111 IP. A similar thing happened in 2012 where he had an ERA of 3.93 thru 52-2/3 IP and finished with an ERA of 5.03 thru 77 IP.
I did not see on the chart, Linares the Cuban pitcher that Indians signed in late 13. Would he be starting in extended spring training or does here start for the DSL Indians short season?
Plan was to have a starting 9 of Santana, Swisher, Kipnis, Cabrera, Chisenhall, Brantley, Bourn, Stubbs, and Reynolds. That's not debatable (sure you'd agree). Bench was planned to be Marson, Aviles, Raburn, and Giambi. Who on there are you saying wasn't planned?
Injuries and Chiz struggling changed the plan. You honestly think if Chisenhall doesn't get demoted in May that we keep a 3-man bench for the next month? Does Giambi get cut?
Also...on June 27th I'm not sure you have the roster setup right. Asdrubal Cabrera was also activated from the DL that day for McDonald (Perez was brought up for TJ House)....meaning the typical starting 9 of Santana-C, Swisher-1B, Kip-2B, Cabrera-SS, Chiz-3B, Brantley-LF, Bourn-CF, Stubbs-RF, and Reynolds-DH were all active and on the roster. Gomes, Aviles, Raburn, and Giambi also were all on the roster...so wouldn't that mean 13 position players? I know Bourn went on the paternity list a couple days later (for a pitcher) but was brought back (with a pitcher going down)....who are you saying was not on the roster then?
Maybe I am the one mistaken here...admit with so many moves due to injuries, paternity leave, doubleheaders, etc things got pretty darn confusing there (even looking at the transaction list isn't the clearest). Am I missing an injury in there?
Also, Omir Santos was up for more than 3 days....you even showed he was up for over a week in your transaction list. Once Santana was cleared it was still questionable how he'd handle the rigors of catching for a couple more days and the Tribe didn't want to be thin behind the plate....something they currently will be every single day if they don't add a real backup catcher before opening day....
I realize I'm in the minority on the catcher thing though. Still say it's not about having a 3rd catcher, but making Santana a non-catcher and simply having two real catchers around at all times.
Opening day roster: 13 P, 12 H (Carrasco suspended)
4/9 change: Marson to DL, Gomes up, Santos up, Bauer down (actually 4/7): 12 P, 13 H (only 12 avail hitters)
4/10: Kluber up, Carrasco down: 12 P, 13 H (12 available hitters, Santana still out)
4/12: Hagadone up, Kluber down, Albers to paternity list, Giambi activated: 11 P, 14 H
4/16: Santos down, Phelps up: 11 P, 14 H
4/17: Bourn to DL, Kluber up: 12 P, 13 H
4/19: Kazmir up, Phelps down: 13 P, 12 H
(Lots of pitcher for pitcher swaps next few weeks)
5/3: Carrera activated, Bauer down (actually 5/2): 12 P, 13 H
5/5: Carrera DFAed, Barnes up: 13 P, 12 H
5/9: Bourn activated, Barnes down: 12 P, 13 H
5/13: Huff up, Chisenhall down: 13 P, 12 H
6/18: Chisenhall up, Langwell down: 12 P, 13 H
6/27: Perez activated from DL, McDonald traded: 13 P, 12 H
And it stayed that way the rest of the year with pitcher for pitcher swaps and position for position player swaps.
In the end, by my count, they had a period from 4/9-4/18 (10 days) when they had less than 13 pitchers and a lot of this was because of the injury situation to both catchers Marson and Santana at the time and also the DL situation with Kazmir and suspension issue with Carrasco. They had another short period from 5/3-5/4 (2 days) and 5/9-5/12 (4 days) where they had less than 13 pitchers…..and a period from 6/18-6/26 (9 days) when they had less than 13 pitchers – again because of injuries in June. So in total, 25 days of the season they had less than 13 pitchers on the roster….roughly 85-87% of the season (so I was overzealous with my 95% assumption ha!).
Also, did go thru the transaction lists.....you're forgetting that Gomes wasn't the only one brought up when Marson went on the DL. Santana was a little banged up (damn you Perez!) so the Tribe also brought up Omir Santos. Tribe actually had a 5-man bench for a week or so in April.
Speaking of that time....just another reason I think the Tribe needs to strongly consider bringing in another catcher and carrying a 3rd catcher (and 4th bench guy). We had to resort to a 4th catcher on the team before April 10th last year....I say again...Jose Lobaton would be a good add. Was a "rumor" of him and Cleveland (ok, more a brief mention than a rumor) last week...
Also, where would the Tribe have been last year if they didn't have Gomes around? Marson goes down....Santana gets banged up. Even though Santana recovered we'd have been down to Omir Santos as our backup for the whole year. Matt Treanor, Luke Carlin, and Roberto Perez....guess I just have zero confidence in these guys if Gomes goes down. Wouldn't mind a guy like Ryan Lavarnway either (seems buried in Boston).
Bottom line, for a great majority of the year the Indians had 13 pitchers and 12 position players. They had 9 regulars and 4 bench guys.....but they were not all on the team at the same time except for like 4-6 days. Bourn missed a few weeks with injury, Chisenhall was optioned out for two months, Giambi missed the first two weeks of the season, Raburn missed time in August, etc. So while it appears they had a four man bench, this is because one of the four was often in the starting lineup. Francona likes the extra pen arm.....I don't necessarily agree with that....but that's what he likes and why they had 13 pitchers on the 25-man last year and barring a surprise will probably have 13 pitchers again this season.
Tribe had a 3 man bench for less than 95% of the time last year...again, if Chiz doesn't get demoted we likely see a 4-man pen well into the summer.
The starting lineup was Santana-C, Swisher-1B, Kipnis-2B, Cabrera-SS, Chiz-3B, Brantley-LF, Bourn-CF, Stubbs-RF, Reynolds-DH with a bench of Marson/Gomes, Aviles, Raburn, and Giambi. That's 13 position players. That was the plan....again, until Chiz struggled and was sent to AAA. When Reynolds moved to 3B and Raburn stepped up to start they went with a 3-man bench...something I can't believe was planned in March.
Again though....I do think we'll (unfortunately) see only a 3-man bench, but just don't agree with it at all.
Yup...but not Gomes is gone from the bench and as much as I like Raburn, no way is he as good as last year. Giambi...OBP dropped so much, how much does he have left? And Aviles really struggled in his bench role too.
So you're losing Gomes's big bat from the bench....probably not seeing quite the bat you saw from Raburn, getting an even older Giambi, and probably a slightly better Aviles. I don't see how that bench can't be viewed as anything but worse than last year's. Still could be a decent bench but the bench against lefties...Murphy, Aviles, Giambi...or is Aviles starting and Chiz on the bench?
As far as the 8th man in the pen...meh, just don't see Lee as ready right now. Don't think he needs to be on this team. Wood or Ardasma can be the 7th man in the pen. When the season wears on, starters get tired, double headers start happening...then add the 8th bullpen guy.
Hiram, yes, Lee is a prospect, though there are several different levels of "prospects". He's not an upper tier or priority guy, but he's an interesting arm the Indians want to see how it develops. As for Wendle, I think there is a chance that as soon as this year he could see more time at other positions like third base or even first base or left field. It really depends on what happens with Jose Ramirez and Ronny Rodriguez and where they are assigned. Ramirez should definitely be in Cleveland or Columbus, but it is unknown if Rodriguez repeats at Akron or goes up to Columbus. We may find out soon with Cord Phelps and his roster status which could change that outlook. If J-Rod is in Columbus, then obviously Wendle is the everyday second baseman and very part-time shortstop at Akron.
Brian, I don't foresee a logjam with Luigi Rodriguez or LeVon Washington. Both are lower priority guys now to the likes of Naquin and Smith, although Myles is kind of in the same mix as Washington and Rodriguez, so if Myles struggles I could see one of Luigi or LeVon moving up. Luigi would probably get first dibs since he is higher on the pecking order. But he needs more time in High-A and LeVon needs a lot of time in High-A too to assert themselves once again. If Myles performs and both Naquin and Smith do their thing, Luigi and LeVon may not get to Akron until the end of the year - and that's if they play well, stay healthy and make big strides in their development.
As for position changes....nothing at the moment other than Bellows will continue to try his conversion to the mound this spring. I think others may dabble at other positions just to get the at bats, but no full blown decisions yet on that until late in spring training once health issues are known. I don't see a problem with Wolters and Monsalve sharing time at catcher and the other either DHing or playing first (Monsalve) or middle infield (Wolters). In fact, Monsalve may end up the priority guy and Wolters is the one who fills in at many positions. Like I said earlier, shaking out the upper level catching depth will be interesting. Also a possibility someone like Lowery simply moves to first base on a regular basis and Sabourin is cut. I know I have Lowery at Columbus, but if they sign a minor league free agent catcher I think that Lowery goes back to Akron in some kind of role.
I have Plutko in Carolina simply because of how advanced he is. I was told he probably would have gone right to Lake County or Carolina had he signed and been healthy. He's fine now, so considering his advanced stuff he looks to be all but certain to skip Low-A and go to Carolina to start.
As for Paulino, every indication is that he will repeat at Lake County, which is not a big deal since he will only be 19 next season and could use more time there. Plus, they have mentioned numerous times how Erik Gonzalez is a guy that they want to give full time shortstop opps to and Carolina is a good fit for him to do that early in the year.
David, any arm can technically turn into a frontend arm as you never know. Shoot, who thought five years ago Salazar would turn into what he did. Of course he turned into that because he gained like 5-7 MPH on his fastball and that's a freak thing, but you never know. Guys like Baker, Kime, and Anderson all look to have potential as #3 types, maybe #2s. A lot will have to go right. But still no Shelby Miller, Jose Fernandez, etc types if that is what you are asking. But again, a lot of times these guys are unclear until someone takes a drastic jump in their development (a la Salazar).....so hopefully the Indians have two or three guys who do it next year.
Also...are there ANY arms in the minors that can be FOR starters potentially? Maybe Cody Anderson? Anyone else with a prayer? Thanks.
Paulino learning 3B isn't a bad idea but I'm sure the Indians will work it the right way. I hope they keep those three picks in the 1st round so we can continue to build up system.
If he repeats, I would prefer he start learning to play 3B..
In using those three picks I would go Weaver, Ellis and Wilson and in the 2nd I would go Burdi
Excuse me. Tony has Plutko in CAROLINA!!
Tony has Plutko in the Lake County rotation
It will be interesting to see how promotions are handled this year, especially with the OF's and young SP's. We don't have a lot of star power in the outfield, but we definitely have much more depth than we did a couple years ago. We could be looking at a potential logjam in AA by July if LRod and Washington perform well at Carolina. Hopefully one of Naquin/Smith can earn a trip to Columbus at some point during the year.
Any news regarding potential position switches for guys like RRod, Urshela, Wendle, Monsalve, or anyone else? I guess I'm not surprised they you feel that Wolters will be prioritized ahead of Monsalve, but he still seems like he has some very nice upside. I know you mentioned it, but can you realistically see Monsalve spending a lot of time at first base? Is Wendle capable of playing the OF? Will RRod get a shot at 3rd base or OF and will Urshela be tried out as a super sub?
Is it a possibility to put Wendle at 3B since so many Infielders??
how is Jacob Lee as a prospect??
I do not condone it so please don't attach this ideato me! I favor moving Cabrera this winter, during the season or letting him walk after 2014. I'm just trying to think of a crazy scenario in which 3B could be covered by someone internally. It has maybe a 1% chance of happening I suppose.